In this inaugural conversation of the Feral Wisdoms collection of the Convexplorations podcast, Anna welcomes environmental humanities scholar Jana Norman for an exploration of our current collective crossroads. Together, they examine how we might navigate away from hierarchical, disembodied ways of being toward more relational, ecologically-grounded approaches to life and community.

Drawing on insights from ancient Indigenous cycles, cellular intelligence, and the wisdom of natural patterns such as seagrass restoration, Anna and Jana explore what it means to 'loosen the grip' on rigid identities and defensive contractions. They discuss the art of staying present with discomfort, embracing multiplicity, and generating choicefulness in this pivotal moment of choosing between fear-based systems and regenerative ways of being. We collectively have reached an important inflection point in planetary and human histories. This conversation offers both philosophical depth and practical wisdom for anyone seeking to re-embed themselves in embodied, relational living during these challenging times.