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In this episode, we finish John chapter 6 and watch a massive turning point in Jesus’ ministry. After His hard teaching about being the true bread from heaven, many who had called themselves “disciples” decide they’ve had enough. They grumble, take offense, and ultimately walk away from Him. Jesus doesn’t soften the message or chase them down—He lets them go and turns to the Twelve with a piercing question: “Do you want to go away as well?”
Peter’s answer, “Lord, to whom shall we go? You have the words of eternal life,” becomes the backdrop for a careful look at the difference between false disciples and true disciples, the importance of knowing truth versus living on feelings, and the ongoing struggle of the believer’s heart as described in Romans 7. We also wrestle honestly with the tension between God’s sovereignty in salvation and our responsibility to preach the gospel, and then pivot into John 7, where opposition escalates and we see Christ moving according to the Father’s perfect timing.
Recap of John 6:63–65 – the Spirit gives life, the flesh is no help at all
Why people reject the gospel: not lack of information, but unbelief and hard hearts
Verse 66 as a turning point: many “disciples” turn back and no longer walk with Jesus
Jesus’ question to the Twelve: “Do you want to go away as well?”
Peter’s confession:
“Lord, to whom shall we go?”
“You have the words of eternal life.”
“We have believed and have come to know that you are the Holy One of God.”
Knowing vs. feeling: why Christian faith is rooted in truth, not emotional highs
How doctrine sustains us in trials (cancer, job loss, betrayal, persecution)
Romans 7 and the believer’s ongoing battle with remaining sin
Contrast between false disciples and true disciples in John 6:
False: demand signs, grumble, take offense, and ultimately walk away
True: come to the end of themselves, cling to Christ as the only hope
Wrestling with election and human responsibility: God grants, we still must preach and believe
Encouragement for evangelism when family and friends reject Christ
Transition to John 7: opposition intensifies and Jesus moves according to the Father’s timing
Primary Texts
John 6:60–71
John 7:1–2
Supporting Texts
John 6:22–63 (context of the Bread of Life discourse)
Romans 7:22–25
James 1:2–4
1 Chronicles 29:11–12
Philippians 2:12–13
Romans 10:14–17
The gospel is rejected not because it’s unclear, but because hearts are hard.
“Lord, to whom shall we go?” – there is no alternative Savior.
Our assurance is anchored in what we know about God and His promises, not in how we feel on a hard day.
True disciples may stumble (like Peter’s later denial), but they ultimately return to Christ because He holds them fast.
We are called to hold together two truths: God sovereignly grants and we boldly preach and believe.
We dare not boil the gospel down until it fits comfortably inside our limited understanding—its power is greater than our categories.
True Disciples Stay Because They Have Nowhere Else to Go
Truth, Not Feelings, Carries Us Through Trials
God is Sovereign, and We Still Preach
Jesus Walks According to the Father’s Timetable
By AJIn this episode, we finish John chapter 6 and watch a massive turning point in Jesus’ ministry. After His hard teaching about being the true bread from heaven, many who had called themselves “disciples” decide they’ve had enough. They grumble, take offense, and ultimately walk away from Him. Jesus doesn’t soften the message or chase them down—He lets them go and turns to the Twelve with a piercing question: “Do you want to go away as well?”
Peter’s answer, “Lord, to whom shall we go? You have the words of eternal life,” becomes the backdrop for a careful look at the difference between false disciples and true disciples, the importance of knowing truth versus living on feelings, and the ongoing struggle of the believer’s heart as described in Romans 7. We also wrestle honestly with the tension between God’s sovereignty in salvation and our responsibility to preach the gospel, and then pivot into John 7, where opposition escalates and we see Christ moving according to the Father’s perfect timing.
Recap of John 6:63–65 – the Spirit gives life, the flesh is no help at all
Why people reject the gospel: not lack of information, but unbelief and hard hearts
Verse 66 as a turning point: many “disciples” turn back and no longer walk with Jesus
Jesus’ question to the Twelve: “Do you want to go away as well?”
Peter’s confession:
“Lord, to whom shall we go?”
“You have the words of eternal life.”
“We have believed and have come to know that you are the Holy One of God.”
Knowing vs. feeling: why Christian faith is rooted in truth, not emotional highs
How doctrine sustains us in trials (cancer, job loss, betrayal, persecution)
Romans 7 and the believer’s ongoing battle with remaining sin
Contrast between false disciples and true disciples in John 6:
False: demand signs, grumble, take offense, and ultimately walk away
True: come to the end of themselves, cling to Christ as the only hope
Wrestling with election and human responsibility: God grants, we still must preach and believe
Encouragement for evangelism when family and friends reject Christ
Transition to John 7: opposition intensifies and Jesus moves according to the Father’s timing
Primary Texts
John 6:60–71
John 7:1–2
Supporting Texts
John 6:22–63 (context of the Bread of Life discourse)
Romans 7:22–25
James 1:2–4
1 Chronicles 29:11–12
Philippians 2:12–13
Romans 10:14–17
The gospel is rejected not because it’s unclear, but because hearts are hard.
“Lord, to whom shall we go?” – there is no alternative Savior.
Our assurance is anchored in what we know about God and His promises, not in how we feel on a hard day.
True disciples may stumble (like Peter’s later denial), but they ultimately return to Christ because He holds them fast.
We are called to hold together two truths: God sovereignly grants and we boldly preach and believe.
We dare not boil the gospel down until it fits comfortably inside our limited understanding—its power is greater than our categories.
True Disciples Stay Because They Have Nowhere Else to Go
Truth, Not Feelings, Carries Us Through Trials
God is Sovereign, and We Still Preach
Jesus Walks According to the Father’s Timetable