Episode 26 - The Role of Learning and Development: Interview With Lorna Gamman, Head of L&D for Krispy Kreme UK

With over 15 years of L&D experience, Lorna Gamman comes with a wealth of experiences including her current role as head of L&D for Krispy Kreme. We ask, What is the role of learning and development? What is L&D strategy? Where does L&D strategy fall down? What does L&D need to do to overcome this? We also look at where Lorna's career is headed to next and her role in supporting SME's with her experiences.

You Can Read the Transcript of Our Interview Below:

Nathan Simmonds:

Welcome to Sticky Interviews. I'm Nathan Simmonds, senior leadership coach and trainer for MBM, Making Business Matter, the home of Sticky Learning. We are the provider of leadership development and soft skills training to the grocery and manufacturing industry. The idea of these interviews is to share great ideas, great concepts, and great ways these skills are being used to help you be the best version of you in the work that you do. Welcome to the show.

Nathan Simmonds:

Welcome to another Sticky Interview with me, Nathan Simmonds, senior leadership coach and trainer for MBM, Making Business Matter, the home of Sticky Learning. Idea with these interviews is help you be the best version of you. I feel like I rushed that, but that's because I'm really enthused, energized, and kind of really, really enjoying this conversation that's been happening before this recording and what we've had before. Today, I have the privilege of speaking to Lorna Gamman, the head of L&D from Krispy Kreme Doughnuts, which in itself is prestigious enough for such a large company that's been around for nearly 100 years now. Lorna will correct me on that in just a minute. She has a phenomenal history with just over 15 years of L&D skills, hands-on practical skills, and is through this current situation, transitioning from this environment to a new world, potentially HR consultancy, L&D consultancy. Taking all those wonderful experiences that she's got from these incredible people and these incredible spaces, and helping to package that, and giving it to new people that need that support in a different way. So it's an exciting venture that I've been having a conversation, an exciting new venture ahead of Lorna as she moves into this space. Welcome to Sticky Interviews, Lorna. Thank you for being here.

Lorna Gamman:

No worries. Thank you for having me.

The Role of Learning and Development

 

Nathan Simmonds:

Look, I want to dive in because I want people to hear as much of what's going on in your head. I love asking you questions because, and I say this with absolute love and respect, you've got a lot to say on these things. You bring an enthusiasm and energy with it that is infectious and I want you to share that with people. For me, the first question is always why do you do what you do?

Lorna Gamman:

Yeah. I think for me, I love people and enabling people to be the best version of themselves. I love the selfish part of knowing that I've had even a teeny, little part to play in that because I think gives you the best feeling. That might be a simple conversation that changes the way that somebody views something through to some longterm leadership development programs and coaching sessions. I think for me, a win's a win, no matter how big. So I think, for me, it's just enabling people to be the best version of themselves. If I can have a bit of a part to play in that, I just get a really big feeling and a great buzz from that.

Nathan Simmonds:

I don't think that's selfish. I think it's wonderful. I talk about what we give to people, and it's the law of contribution. It's about what you put in first of all. With L&D, and leadership development, and all those elements, it is about what we put in first. We know that as leaders, the point it falls down is when it's take, take, take when it's all about me, me, me. That most people,