On the day of their interview with James Roberts, Matt discovered he'd been sitting on a goldmine of juicy secrets concerning original plans for Lost Light. With James' blessing, we're breaking them down now.

From minor tidbits to major revelations, we pull back the curtain a little on what might have been had Lost Light not been cut short. Plus some of our own speculation of course.

If this whets your appetite, make sure to pick up the final volumes of James' notebooks in 2024, which will go into even greater detail.

And that's it! Podcast over. Thank you for joining us for our Transformers journey. If you'd like to keep listening to our podcasts hijinks, make sure to subscribe to Untitled BoJack Horseman Project, available everywhere you get podcasts NOW.

Outro Music: 'This Is Why We Fight' (The Decemberists Cover) - Saskia Parks