In this episode, Lisa and Mackenzie talk to Josh Malerman about his latest novel, Unbury Carol.

Josh Malerman is the author of Bird Box, Unbury Carol and others, including short stories, novellas, and plays. He's also one of two singer-songwriters for the Detroit rock band The High Strung, whose song "The Luck You Got" can be heard as the theme song for the hit Showtime show "Shameless." He lives in Michigan with his artist fiancee Allison Laakko.

Virginia Woolf

The Loney by Andrew Michael Hurley

Josh's rock band: The High Strung

Smith Henderson

Black Mad Wheel

The Nightmare on Netflix

Photo from Josh's "reading" of Unbury Carol

Classic book Josh will never read: Jude the Obscure