Garth and Bre sit down with friends Davin and Elizabeth Rayford. We talk about finding love after loss, blending families as a interracial couple with kids, and learning how grace for each other comes first from having more grace for ourselves.

Content warning: for those listening with young kids, we do briefly cover the topic of the murder of George Floyd in 2020. While it's an important part of the conversation, it may not be suitable for the youngest listeners, and we don't want anyone to be caught off guard. We discuss the importance of teaching our kids about how race affects our society, and how being in an interracial marriage has changed the ways Elizabeth and Davin have approached that topic with their kids.