Author and cohost of the popular podcast Bible for Normal People, Jared Byas, joins Mark and Rex to discuss his new book Love Matters More: How Fighting to be Right Keeps Us from Loving Like Jesus.

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Welcome to Jessup think I'm your host Mark Moore, and your co host, Rex Gurney. And Rex on the show today. So excited to sit down with Jared bias. He's a co host of very popular podcast, the Bible for normal people. Also, the author of a book recently put out called Love Matters More, how fighting to be right keeps us from loving like Jesus. And it's a conversation that's going to talk about what it looks like to really love people more than wanting to be right. And in the proper place, maybe of love with truth and wisdom.

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And it's a conversation that's really important, and one that I think our listeners will really enjoy. Yeah,

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so hope you stay with us. And check out the book. Love matters more.

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Well, Jared is really excited to have you on the show. And excited for the book that's come out. Love matters more. And as we get kind of started here, I'd love for you to kind of maybe share some of your background because as I was kind of reading it, I felt a connection with your with your kind of spiritual background, your church background, and I know Rex will have some connections as well.

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Yeah, sure. And it's it's a story of a spiritual Mutt of in many ways. So I grew up in a small town in Texas Southern Baptist, and my grandmother, though, was a kind of a traveling charismatic preacher. So I definitely had a charismatic, heavy influence as well as Southern Baptist, and then ended up going to a Presbyterian Church in high school by myself. I was drawn a little bit more to kind of the intellectual ism of Presbyterianism, you ended up going to Liberty University, and then from there to Westminster seminary, which is a Presbyterian leaning seminary, for sure. And then, you know, went to a few other areas was a pastor to nondenominational church where we had a bunch of us from different backgrounds, and currently a member of a Mennonite Church, actually, okay. Well, Mark has the Liberty connection here.

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Yeah, I was gonna say I was I didn't know about the Liberty connections. So we got some shared history there. I guess.

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I grew up Southern Baptist. And actually, I so got my indev at a Southern Baptist seminary. And then I guess I went to the wrong kind of Presbyterian seminary for my PhD it was union, it's a PC PC, let's say, Yeah. Very, very different than I mean, I don't regret it at all. It was it was a wonderful experience for me, but very different than my mtef. Experience. Yeah.

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And what's your would share with the transition to the Presbyterian Church, she's saying in high school, you went there kind of on your own, drawn to more the intellectual side? That Yeah, how did that transition kind of happen? And maybe what did your family think when that was gonna? cabinet? Yeah,

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I mean, you have to remember, it's also in the context of a small Texas town. So everyone's Christian, everyone's kind of in the same general area direction. Yeah. So it wasn't that much different, except for that emphasis again, on much more reading much more about outlining systematic theology, and how does God work? And how do we get into the nuances? And how do we address those questions and doubts and come up with some solid answers for all of that. And so that was kind of my transition. It's just more of my personality, I think and how I how I thought about faith.

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And how did you get the Texas accent drilled out of you? lots of practice. Yeah, lots of I grew up in New Mexico. And honestly, all of our all of our pastors in my whole childhood a useful experience were from Texas. And so I really thought that God spoke with the Texas accent. I just didn't know any different. Till I learned there was a wider world out there.

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