In this episode, Soula and Zach discuss their undying irrational optimism, the healing properties of creativity, the misunderstood nature of the word "apocalypse," and how to find a country inside yourself when the material world is aflame.

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Audio score / mix by Kevin Joseph Grossmann

Poetry by Zachary Murdock Field

Song: "love's gravity" > https://distrokid.com/hyperfollow/zacharymurdock1/electric-bible-book-2

Photo by Taylor Cox x Art by Sher Vantiger

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