In recent times hype has been growing around so called low code - and even no code - software solutions.

Some say that professional developers in the workplace are on the way out with the rise of intuitive products that make previously complex tasks easy for the average office worker.

Amy Woodcock speaks to Nick Long, Head of Technology at Curvestone, about the reasons for the clamour and why perhaps developers don't need to be losing too much sleep just yet.

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