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LP18: Interview with Derek (Part 1): A Journey of Prayer, Simplicity, and Relational Faith


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In this episode of the Luminous Podcast, discover the transformative effects of prayerful discipleship and learn how simple acts of faith can spark significant changes in your spiritual journey. We delve into the honest struggles and triumphs of praying for others to know Jesus and candidly share how this practice has fostered a deeper compassion within us.

In this first half of our interview with Derek, we venture through twenty years of embracing disciple-making principles across diverse communities, from Toronto's urban core to remote First Nations territories. Hear about his shift from resource-heavy ministry to a relational faith that resonates with Jesus' teachings. We also confront the internal barriers that often challenge traditional churches in adopting a Disciple Making Movement mindset.

Tune in for a heartfelt discussion that could reshape your approach to ministry and deepen your connection to the divine tapestry of disciple-making.


(00:06) Prayerful Discipleship Journey

We share our experiences with praying for others and how it has shifted our hearts towards them.


(08:38) Journey of Disciple Making Movement

Two decades of ministry journey, from human trafficking to First Nations to a disciple-making approach, leading to a shift from striving to resting.


(18:49) Barriers to Disciple Making

Internal struggles, redefining success, going slow to go fast, laying down old habits, and following Christ's example in disciple-making.


(30:47) Challenges and Shifts in Disciple Making

Prayer's power in disciple-making, shifting from striving to resting in God's plan, challenges for traditional churches, and embracing the missional role in our contexts.



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