Chris Csar joins Garrett and they discuss how Chris has been able to process an unthinkable tragedy in his life, through using his tools and also getting into boxing.

We of course talk about Psychedelics and point out that Chris is directly responsible for introducing them to everybody and changing peoples lives.

We discuss whether there is a message in the whole Coronavirus nightmare, and thoughts on how to navigate it and stay sane.

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Chris also highly recommends a book on psychedelics called Entheogenic liberation by Martin Ball, check it out on amazon here

We discuss movies, then do some housekeeping and Garrett reveals the direction the podcast is taking.

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