Surfing World champion CJ Hobgood chats with Lucas “The Pocket Knife” Dirkse. Like a pocket knife, you want Lucas with you wherever you go, hard working, utilitarian, and always comes though in a pinch. He has proven himself to be a necessity on Salty Crew Trips like the ones while filming "Find Refuge in the Sea," "Sink or Swim" "and "Thrill Seekers and Risk Takers" Lucas believes in doing things the hard way, the right way. From building his own surfboards to rebuilding and repairing his panga. If he needs something, he builds it. If it’s broken, he fixes it. Lucas is young, but has done more living than men twice his age. He has experienced a lot, and learned a lot, and the more we learn about him, the more we are blown away. We hope you enjoy this episode as much as we did. Thanks for listening,