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"Their past pain or their present situation, pain, anger, frustration, they show up. They do. So there's a special place for that person. I don't know if there's a special place. I really don't know. I think if you. If you shut that part off, that part of your heart that's a caring, giving person, you die inside. And it's just. It just. It's like the war within. It's sad."