This episode of the RISE Podcast features Luis Crouch, a member of RISE Research Directorate, and the Senior Economist at RTI’s International Development Group. In conversation with RISE Research Fellow Yue-Yi Hwa, he shares perspectives from his 30-year-career across development and education. They discuss the relationship between education and national development goals; socioeconomic development; the importance of purpose in education systems change; the interplay between national priorities and international agenda-setting in education; and the challenges of coordination and unintended consequences, including the effects that these can have in complex education systems.

Links: 

• ‘How to Rapidly Improve Learning Outcomes at System Level?’ (Blog) by Crouch: https://riseprogramme.org/blog/improve-learning-outcomes-system-level
• ‘Systems Implications for Core Instructional Support Lessons from Sobral (Brazil), Puebla (Mexico), and Kenya’ (Insight Note) by Crouch: https://riseprogramme.org/publications/systems-implications-core-instructional-support-lessons-sobral-brazil-puebla-mexico
• ‘Addressing Learning Inequality in Educational Systems Through Foundational Skills’ (Blog) by Rodriguez-Segura et al: https://riseprogramme.org/blog/learning-inequality-educational-systems-foundational-skills
• ‘Looking Beyond Changes in Averages in Evaluating Foundational Learning: Some Inequality Measures’ (Working Paper) by Rodriguez-Segura et al: https://riseprogramme.org/publications/looking-beyond-changes-averages-evaluating-foundational-learning-some-inequality
• ‘Eliminating Global Learning Poverty: The Importance of Equalities and Equity’ (Working Paper) by Crouch, Rolleston and Gustafsson: https://riseprogramme.org/publications/eliminating-global-learning-poverty-importance-equalities-and-equity
• ‘Using Learning Profiles to Inform Education Priorities: An Editors’ Overview of the Special Issue (Schooling Without Learning: Implications of Learning Profiles for the Global Learning Crisis’ by Crouch, Kaffenberger and Savage: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0738059321001309
• ‘Special Issue: Schooling Without Learning: Implications of Learning Profiles for the Global Learning Crisis’ edited by Crouch, Kaffenberger and Savage, International Journal of Educational Development:https://www.sciencedirect.com/journal/international-journal-of-educational-development/special-issue/1035CNWP9N3
• RISE Podcast episode with Dzingai Mutumbuka, Zimbabwe’s first post-independence Minister of Education and Culture: https://riseprogramme.org/podcast/dzingai-mutumbuka 

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