No guest this episode, just Fi and Luke hanging out in the comfy chairs and having a chat. 

We talk about the power of short feedback loops in making positive change – building your own sense of hope, positivity and ability to have an impact. And how we're each trying create those positive experiences through teaching workshops, making pickles from veggie scraps and turning pants into bags.

We also go down a bit of a rabbit hole about a new startup that's fermenting, rather than farming milk, and how we feel about that.

If you're keen to get involved with Luke's sewing and upcycling workshops, you can find them all here: https://intocarry.co/pages/workshopcategories.

And the cooking classes at the Moving Feast kitchen are all here: https://movingfeast.net/movingfeastcookingclass.