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In this episode, Austin sits down with Jai Misra, Software Engineering Manager at Cisco Meraki, whose path into engineering started nowhere near a computer science classroom. From studying Globalization and Arabic at Gettysburg College and working in immigration advocacy, to leading engineering teams responsible for platforms used at global scale, Jai’s career arc is a case study in how perspective shapes architecture.

Austin and Jai dig into what it really means to build software that lasts. They talk about the difference between consultancy speed and enterprise durability, why well-architected systems save you years of pain later, and how leadership, mentorship, and documentation quietly determine whether a team thrives or burns out.

If you’re curious how someone with a non-traditional background ends up leading serious engineering work at Cisco Meraki—and what that says about the future of software development—this one’s for you.