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Welcome to The Nonlinear Library, where we use Text-to-Speech software to convert the best writing from the Rationalist and EA communities into audio. This is: Feedbackloop-first Rationality, published by Raemon on August 7, 2023 on LessWrong.
I've been workshopping a new rationality training paradigm. (By "rationality training paradigm", I mean an approach to learning/teaching the skill of "noticing what cognitive strategies are useful, and getting better at them.")
I think the paradigm has promise. I've beta-tested it for a couple weeks. It's too early to tell if it actually works, but one of my primary goals is to figure out if it works relatively quickly, and give up if it isn't not delivering.
The goal of this post is to:
Convey the framework
See if people find it compelling in its current form
Solicit ideas for improvements, before I decide whether to invest heavily into a larger experiment around it.
Rationality needs better feedback loops
Claim: Feedback loops are the most important thing ever. Hard things are hard because they have bad feedback loops. Some of the most important things (e.g. x-risk mitigation research) have the worst feedback loops.
Bold prediction: You can learn to think better, even about confusing, poor-feedback domains. This requires developing the art of inventing feedback loops. And then, actually putting in a lot of deliberate practice effort.
I've long been haunted by this Romeo Stevens comment (slightly paraphrased)
Deliberate practice deliberate practice until you get really good identifying good feedback loops, and working with them.
People have a really hard time with interventions often because they literally do not have a functioning causal model of the skill in question. People who apply deliberate practice to a working causal model often level up astonishingly quickly. Don't know if you have the appropriate causal model? Well, when you apply deliberate practice do you not get better? You're pulling on fake levers.
In the past, I've tried to practice thinking. I've done explicit puzzle-solving exercises, and I have a day job that forces me to think about challenging questions on a regular basis. I sometimes have tried to refactor my day-job into something deliberate practice-shaped, but it never gelled.
I think I've gotten better at thinking in the past 12 years. But I haven't gotten overwhelmingly obviously better at thinking. I recently decided to deliberate practicing "solve confusing problems", until I was demonstrably better at it, and to host some workshops where I tried helping other people practice too.
I ended up settling into a paradigm of rationality training with five elements:
Deliberate Practice. Do challenging cognitive exercises, at the edge of your ability, in a variety of domains, where it's obvious how well you're doing (i.e. clear cut answers, or you're making a metric go up).
Metacognition. After deciding on the final answer for the exercise and finding out if you got it right, reflect on what you could have done better. Try to extract as much insight/wisdom/tools as you can from each exercise.
Improve your practice feedback loop. Then, find or design better exercises, that cut more closely to your ultimate goals. Optimize exercises both for being concrete (i.e. you can tell if you succeeded), and for extracting as much insight/tools as possible during the metacognition step (i.e. they are a good difficulty in a domain I haven't already exhausted for insight)
Improve your real-life feedback loop. Think about what sort of cognitive challenges you run into your day-job or main project, where you're bottlenecked in your ability to reason. How can you do better meta-reflection in those fuzzier, longer-timescale domains?
Illegible goodness. In addition to the formal structure implied by the previous four bullets, also try random stuff that feels vaguely relevant and helpful, even if it you can't explain why. (I think some previous rationality training approaches leaned...
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