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What's goin on guys?
This is Kyle Federmann and I want to welcome you into the world of true marketing for your MLM, this is stuff that unfortunately your downline hasn't taught you and honestly it is so new age for MLM because in my opinion MLM is stuck in the 70s and in this episode I wanted to share my story about my journey in joining an MLM and how I've gotten where I am today and you guys may be able to relate to this so I wanted to just welcome you into this movement because this isn't going to be a normal podcast, it's more like a project and it's something that will be able to help you get on the ground running and selling like you never thought you could, I just think there's a ton of podcasts and youtubers out there in the MLM space that are teaching stuff but they haven't been in the MLM industry and all their tactics are outdated and they just keep telling you to bug the crap out of your friends and family so I'm letting you know now I'm not going to pitch you on my MLM and I'm not going to tell you to go talk to your warm market because I honestly hated that and if you haven't tried it yet I want to save you from having the embarrassment that I had. I hope you guys are excited to start this journey with me so let's get started I'm super pumped for this and hopefully I bring enough value that you'll go with me along this journey and become a top MLMer like I'm trying to do.
When I initially got into MLM I was at an insanely stressful point in my life, and you guys may be able to relate to this, but I was making anywhere from $700-$1000 a month working at a marina and I would be driving to work every day about 30 minutes away and I had this old beat up burgundy colored red truck, and in the summer it would be in the mid 90s sometimes even feel like 100 degrees with the heat index and the A/C was completely shot and didn't work so I had to roll the windows down manually, the dang thing for the window snapped off and it seemed like something always was going wrong. But the thing that was the worst about the windows was because when I opened the windows and any time I went over about 30 mph if any of you remember the older cars with that felt lining that was glued to the ceiling, it would usually come loose and I had that happen so any time I drove over 30 mph, that felt ceiling would flap and smack me on the side of the head and I actually didn't even have a rear view mirror because any time it got over 85 degrees, the adhesive for the mirror would lose its stickiness and the mirror would just fall off so when it cooled down I would have a giant crack all the way across the mirror when looking into it and honestly I thought I had bad luck but to make matters worse, my muffler had a giant hole in it and I didn't have the $600 to fork up for labor and materials for it to get fixed so when I would drive anywhere I would get out and have this like buzzing noise in my ears because my truck was so loud from the muffler it literally sounded like a nascar truck, like I don't know how else to explain it but life was ROUGH and it was embarrassing driving this piece of crap around that sounded like a nascar but didn't even go nearly the speed of one. Every day I was waking up hoping that school would still let me go to class even though I owed them $2500 and to make matters worse, I couldn't do anything to help my girlfriend out.
She's about 4 years older than me and had a full-time job as a nurse at the time and she's always lived comfortable, she had a brand new jeep, a newly built condo, hell she even bought the dog that I told her and kept PROMISING I would surprise her with eventually, and I realized I kept making all these promises like "I promise this business will work and I'll get enough money to pay off our school debt, buy us our dream house" and EVERYTHING that I … and hopefully you guys dream of having as well. And I just started having these worries in the back of my head like "how much longer can I do this?" "Is she going to leave me because I'm not keeping or fulfilling any of these promises I'm making?" I literally felt like a complete failure guys, I made all these promises because I wanted to start a family with her and not have to worry about money, let alone be able to buy this gorgeous ring I've always wanted to get her and I just didn't want to ever worry about money because growing up that's what all the arguments were in my household, it was ALWAYS about money and how my parents didn't have it… I'm not saying they were bad parents at all, they raised me to be a pretty decent kid I like to think, but they were working 2 or 3 jobs each to be able to pay for a private education and they helped me shape who I've become today. I just always wondered what it would be like to not have to worry about money.
That's why I got into MLM, to solve my issue with money and help me create a business that had residual income because I assume many of you have read it but I read rich dad poor dad by Robert Kiyosaki and he always said "the rich don't work for their money, they have people work for them and have people make the money for them." And shortly after reading this book it opened my mind up to new opportunities and what was possible.
I eventually started looking for another job to get some cash in hope of actually being able to buy my girlfriend a Christmas and birthday present to avoid being embarrassed again and I came across this ad for a job on craigslist… it said be your own boss and make $400-$700 a week and I was thinking to myself this could change my life, I could pay off $2500 of school debt and start saving money so I called the ad and it said to go to this hotel meeting and at the time I never heard of hotel meetings in MLM so I reluctantly dressed up, put my worn out khakis on because I couldn't afford to buy new ones, and went out to this hotel meeting. I got the typical MLM pitch and ended up joining because it was only $59 to join so I thought I would be able to do it fine.
I started on this journey to become successful in MLM so I could prove to my girlfriend that all this hassle and embarrassment would be worth it. I got started and dropped about $800 on getting licensed and everything and booked a couple appointments and got 1 deal out of it… but to go out on your own you needed 3 assignments completed and as soon as I thought I had made it in the clear I was $800 in debt and fresh out of leads… I went to all my friends and family and they were all annoyed and didn't want to do business with me and to be honest, they were pissed at me because I kept pitching their faces off about how I could help them in their situations. So the issue now was I didn't know how to find anymore leads and then a couple weeks later I ended up getting a paid internship so I didn't have this giant pit in my stomach of not being able to live and I just stopped marketing my MLM to my warm market and basically stopped the business altogether.
Since then in 2015 when I started I've been investing tens of thousands of dollars into myself like I learned to do in rich dad poor dad and I eventually learned this marketing tactic that is able to work in any business… One day a guy that went to the same gym as me asked me to help him market his business for a percentage cut so I decided I'd help because I had all this marketing knowledge, after a couple months he just stopped responding so I was like alright I guess I'll stop wasting my time on this and at this point I had put money into the business a little bit and was back living paycheck to paycheck, I started to get this feeling that my body just increased by 100 pounds and it felt like this giant weight was put onto my shoulders because I thought this opportunity was the one that would relieve all my worries about stress and get me enough money to help provide and begin to start a family…
I just sort of grinded through that spring wishing I could find something to get me out of this mess, and one day I got a call from the guy that presented at the hotel meeting and got me to join he said "Hey Kyle, haven't heard from you in a while, hope everything is going well with your real estate stuff, I've got another opportunity for you and I want you to be under me in this, it's an MLM in prelaunch and we can join, it's only $59, we can recruit our warm market and then make our millions and find another MLM to bounce over to. In the back of my head I was like this could be it… but I can't. I can't keep recruiting and pitching my family and friends, it is hard enough trying to be social because I'm such an introvert but I can't pitch my family and friends anymore. And then it hit me, one of the courses I had bought taught me how to market to other people in MLM and all they said was "The pioneers are lying face down in the sand with arrows in their back, they are the ones that figured out what works and what doesn't, so go and find them and model what they are doing."
So everyday when I got home from work and literally all weekend I started searching into what the top MLMers were doing and they were all doing the same exact thing… they were all pushing out tons of free stuff or smaller paid items to get the prospects in the door, and one of the guys even went into detail on how he does it, he called it paid prospecting. So I kept this in the back of my head and thought ok, this guy is super successful in MLM, instead of trying to create my own road, I will just follow what he does and tweak it so it is my own thing… so every night I would come home from work and work my face off trying to get this done and there would be multiple nights a week where it was about 1 or 2 in the morning and I would just pass out because I was trying to set up everything myself in wordpress.
Eventually I got a couple deals done in the real estate stuff I was doing on the side to get some cash to buy my fiancé the ring I wanted to give her and was going to do it on vacation when we went out to Lake Tahoe in California. I had just gotten this landing page stuff set up to where I could hit run and then hopefully let the leads just trickle in and get recruits on autopilot… So I had a 2-week trial for this software and I planned it so leading up to vacation I could start it and run it and get the software to pay for itself so I stayed up all night on a Thursday while my fiancé was working and hit launch… Well since I stayed up all night I have this weird condition that if my body does not get at least 5 hours of sleep I will pass out if I sit down until my body hits 8 hours of sleep – I don't think it's a condition I think it's just that life was so rough so I ended up going to bed at 2, woke up at 5 like normal to go to work and then just passed back out… I woke up a couple hours later and it was 9:00 and I was like holy crap I'm so late for work so I rushed in and got to work and it hit me about halfway through the day that I forgot to check and see if my launch worked so I hurried up and got on my email and saw 4 people had put in an application to join my team. In under 12 hours. And I just sat there, almost started to cry and was so excited because what I did, it completed shifted the viewpoint on how to be successful in MLM.
I actually shut that off because I found a better software to set up what we call these sales funnels, I had to go on vacation to propose to my girlfriend, who is now my fiancé, and I didn't have any idea of how to teach my downline how to do this so they wouldn't be successful as well - so I just had to turn it off. But I'm actually doing the rework of it now and starting to teach them how to do the same thing and I'm just going to be documenting this process because it can be hard to comprehend if you're seeing the finished product from a top MLMer doing it.
So that's all I got for this episode guys, I just wanted to let you guys in on my story and where I've come to find this point of realization that we don't have to pitch to our warm market anymore, it doesn't have to be like that and we can still get invited to family parties… without the embarrassment of them saying "oh are you a millionaire yet?" "hows that scam working out for you?" And I'm so excited to be able to sharing this with you guys and hopefully you will get a ton of value out of this podcast, I'll start going deeper into the process and step by step things I'm doing in the future so you can follow along and hopefully implement this yourselves and I'm actually planning on creating a little bootcamp I made one weekend that has 5 videos in it that goes through step by step on how to set this up so if you want that, I haven't figured out how I'm going to send it out yet but will be able to send it to you on a cd or flash drive or something to allow you to download it to your phone or computer and take it anywhere so you can listen and learn.
So just head over to MLM2FreedomProject.com and you should be able to find it there, I'll pay the $8 to get the flash drive and customize it and whatever else it costs for this company to put the videos on there and everything but when you click to get it free it'll just ask you to pay for the shipping.
Feel free to leave a comment, review or feedback and ask questions as to what you are having trouble with in your MLM so I can get those answered and help you get started!
Look forward to being on this journey with you guys and I'll see you on the next episode! Bye!
By Kyle Federmann: Recruiting and Sales on AutopilotWhat's goin on guys?
This is Kyle Federmann and I want to welcome you into the world of true marketing for your MLM, this is stuff that unfortunately your downline hasn't taught you and honestly it is so new age for MLM because in my opinion MLM is stuck in the 70s and in this episode I wanted to share my story about my journey in joining an MLM and how I've gotten where I am today and you guys may be able to relate to this so I wanted to just welcome you into this movement because this isn't going to be a normal podcast, it's more like a project and it's something that will be able to help you get on the ground running and selling like you never thought you could, I just think there's a ton of podcasts and youtubers out there in the MLM space that are teaching stuff but they haven't been in the MLM industry and all their tactics are outdated and they just keep telling you to bug the crap out of your friends and family so I'm letting you know now I'm not going to pitch you on my MLM and I'm not going to tell you to go talk to your warm market because I honestly hated that and if you haven't tried it yet I want to save you from having the embarrassment that I had. I hope you guys are excited to start this journey with me so let's get started I'm super pumped for this and hopefully I bring enough value that you'll go with me along this journey and become a top MLMer like I'm trying to do.
When I initially got into MLM I was at an insanely stressful point in my life, and you guys may be able to relate to this, but I was making anywhere from $700-$1000 a month working at a marina and I would be driving to work every day about 30 minutes away and I had this old beat up burgundy colored red truck, and in the summer it would be in the mid 90s sometimes even feel like 100 degrees with the heat index and the A/C was completely shot and didn't work so I had to roll the windows down manually, the dang thing for the window snapped off and it seemed like something always was going wrong. But the thing that was the worst about the windows was because when I opened the windows and any time I went over about 30 mph if any of you remember the older cars with that felt lining that was glued to the ceiling, it would usually come loose and I had that happen so any time I drove over 30 mph, that felt ceiling would flap and smack me on the side of the head and I actually didn't even have a rear view mirror because any time it got over 85 degrees, the adhesive for the mirror would lose its stickiness and the mirror would just fall off so when it cooled down I would have a giant crack all the way across the mirror when looking into it and honestly I thought I had bad luck but to make matters worse, my muffler had a giant hole in it and I didn't have the $600 to fork up for labor and materials for it to get fixed so when I would drive anywhere I would get out and have this like buzzing noise in my ears because my truck was so loud from the muffler it literally sounded like a nascar truck, like I don't know how else to explain it but life was ROUGH and it was embarrassing driving this piece of crap around that sounded like a nascar but didn't even go nearly the speed of one. Every day I was waking up hoping that school would still let me go to class even though I owed them $2500 and to make matters worse, I couldn't do anything to help my girlfriend out.
She's about 4 years older than me and had a full-time job as a nurse at the time and she's always lived comfortable, she had a brand new jeep, a newly built condo, hell she even bought the dog that I told her and kept PROMISING I would surprise her with eventually, and I realized I kept making all these promises like "I promise this business will work and I'll get enough money to pay off our school debt, buy us our dream house" and EVERYTHING that I … and hopefully you guys dream of having as well. And I just started having these worries in the back of my head like "how much longer can I do this?" "Is she going to leave me because I'm not keeping or fulfilling any of these promises I'm making?" I literally felt like a complete failure guys, I made all these promises because I wanted to start a family with her and not have to worry about money, let alone be able to buy this gorgeous ring I've always wanted to get her and I just didn't want to ever worry about money because growing up that's what all the arguments were in my household, it was ALWAYS about money and how my parents didn't have it… I'm not saying they were bad parents at all, they raised me to be a pretty decent kid I like to think, but they were working 2 or 3 jobs each to be able to pay for a private education and they helped me shape who I've become today. I just always wondered what it would be like to not have to worry about money.
That's why I got into MLM, to solve my issue with money and help me create a business that had residual income because I assume many of you have read it but I read rich dad poor dad by Robert Kiyosaki and he always said "the rich don't work for their money, they have people work for them and have people make the money for them." And shortly after reading this book it opened my mind up to new opportunities and what was possible.
I eventually started looking for another job to get some cash in hope of actually being able to buy my girlfriend a Christmas and birthday present to avoid being embarrassed again and I came across this ad for a job on craigslist… it said be your own boss and make $400-$700 a week and I was thinking to myself this could change my life, I could pay off $2500 of school debt and start saving money so I called the ad and it said to go to this hotel meeting and at the time I never heard of hotel meetings in MLM so I reluctantly dressed up, put my worn out khakis on because I couldn't afford to buy new ones, and went out to this hotel meeting. I got the typical MLM pitch and ended up joining because it was only $59 to join so I thought I would be able to do it fine.
I started on this journey to become successful in MLM so I could prove to my girlfriend that all this hassle and embarrassment would be worth it. I got started and dropped about $800 on getting licensed and everything and booked a couple appointments and got 1 deal out of it… but to go out on your own you needed 3 assignments completed and as soon as I thought I had made it in the clear I was $800 in debt and fresh out of leads… I went to all my friends and family and they were all annoyed and didn't want to do business with me and to be honest, they were pissed at me because I kept pitching their faces off about how I could help them in their situations. So the issue now was I didn't know how to find anymore leads and then a couple weeks later I ended up getting a paid internship so I didn't have this giant pit in my stomach of not being able to live and I just stopped marketing my MLM to my warm market and basically stopped the business altogether.
Since then in 2015 when I started I've been investing tens of thousands of dollars into myself like I learned to do in rich dad poor dad and I eventually learned this marketing tactic that is able to work in any business… One day a guy that went to the same gym as me asked me to help him market his business for a percentage cut so I decided I'd help because I had all this marketing knowledge, after a couple months he just stopped responding so I was like alright I guess I'll stop wasting my time on this and at this point I had put money into the business a little bit and was back living paycheck to paycheck, I started to get this feeling that my body just increased by 100 pounds and it felt like this giant weight was put onto my shoulders because I thought this opportunity was the one that would relieve all my worries about stress and get me enough money to help provide and begin to start a family…
I just sort of grinded through that spring wishing I could find something to get me out of this mess, and one day I got a call from the guy that presented at the hotel meeting and got me to join he said "Hey Kyle, haven't heard from you in a while, hope everything is going well with your real estate stuff, I've got another opportunity for you and I want you to be under me in this, it's an MLM in prelaunch and we can join, it's only $59, we can recruit our warm market and then make our millions and find another MLM to bounce over to. In the back of my head I was like this could be it… but I can't. I can't keep recruiting and pitching my family and friends, it is hard enough trying to be social because I'm such an introvert but I can't pitch my family and friends anymore. And then it hit me, one of the courses I had bought taught me how to market to other people in MLM and all they said was "The pioneers are lying face down in the sand with arrows in their back, they are the ones that figured out what works and what doesn't, so go and find them and model what they are doing."
So everyday when I got home from work and literally all weekend I started searching into what the top MLMers were doing and they were all doing the same exact thing… they were all pushing out tons of free stuff or smaller paid items to get the prospects in the door, and one of the guys even went into detail on how he does it, he called it paid prospecting. So I kept this in the back of my head and thought ok, this guy is super successful in MLM, instead of trying to create my own road, I will just follow what he does and tweak it so it is my own thing… so every night I would come home from work and work my face off trying to get this done and there would be multiple nights a week where it was about 1 or 2 in the morning and I would just pass out because I was trying to set up everything myself in wordpress.
Eventually I got a couple deals done in the real estate stuff I was doing on the side to get some cash to buy my fiancé the ring I wanted to give her and was going to do it on vacation when we went out to Lake Tahoe in California. I had just gotten this landing page stuff set up to where I could hit run and then hopefully let the leads just trickle in and get recruits on autopilot… So I had a 2-week trial for this software and I planned it so leading up to vacation I could start it and run it and get the software to pay for itself so I stayed up all night on a Thursday while my fiancé was working and hit launch… Well since I stayed up all night I have this weird condition that if my body does not get at least 5 hours of sleep I will pass out if I sit down until my body hits 8 hours of sleep – I don't think it's a condition I think it's just that life was so rough so I ended up going to bed at 2, woke up at 5 like normal to go to work and then just passed back out… I woke up a couple hours later and it was 9:00 and I was like holy crap I'm so late for work so I rushed in and got to work and it hit me about halfway through the day that I forgot to check and see if my launch worked so I hurried up and got on my email and saw 4 people had put in an application to join my team. In under 12 hours. And I just sat there, almost started to cry and was so excited because what I did, it completed shifted the viewpoint on how to be successful in MLM.
I actually shut that off because I found a better software to set up what we call these sales funnels, I had to go on vacation to propose to my girlfriend, who is now my fiancé, and I didn't have any idea of how to teach my downline how to do this so they wouldn't be successful as well - so I just had to turn it off. But I'm actually doing the rework of it now and starting to teach them how to do the same thing and I'm just going to be documenting this process because it can be hard to comprehend if you're seeing the finished product from a top MLMer doing it.
So that's all I got for this episode guys, I just wanted to let you guys in on my story and where I've come to find this point of realization that we don't have to pitch to our warm market anymore, it doesn't have to be like that and we can still get invited to family parties… without the embarrassment of them saying "oh are you a millionaire yet?" "hows that scam working out for you?" And I'm so excited to be able to sharing this with you guys and hopefully you will get a ton of value out of this podcast, I'll start going deeper into the process and step by step things I'm doing in the future so you can follow along and hopefully implement this yourselves and I'm actually planning on creating a little bootcamp I made one weekend that has 5 videos in it that goes through step by step on how to set this up so if you want that, I haven't figured out how I'm going to send it out yet but will be able to send it to you on a cd or flash drive or something to allow you to download it to your phone or computer and take it anywhere so you can listen and learn.
So just head over to MLM2FreedomProject.com and you should be able to find it there, I'll pay the $8 to get the flash drive and customize it and whatever else it costs for this company to put the videos on there and everything but when you click to get it free it'll just ask you to pay for the shipping.
Feel free to leave a comment, review or feedback and ask questions as to what you are having trouble with in your MLM so I can get those answered and help you get started!
Look forward to being on this journey with you guys and I'll see you on the next episode! Bye!