Very often customers of Zerocracy ask me whether we can find them some good UI/UX designers, who will make sure their application looks great and can work together with programmers. We can't do that because UI people are too artistic and their work has no explicit borders. It's better to find them somewhere else, make sure they are managed and disciplined somehow differently and let programmers integrate their code with their creativity, somehow. How exactly you do that, depends on many technical factors.
The video is here: https://youtu.be/dzepTbcQkgU