This is my conversation with MacKenzie Price, founder of Alpha School.

Since the first Alpha School opened almost 10 years ago, MacKenzie has been working towards making kids love school more than vacation.

In this conversation we talk about:

* Why schools are still banning AI in late 2025 while Alpha’s kindergartners use it to build apps and practice public speaking

* The Harvard study showing AI tutors beat Harvard professors at teaching physics

* How kids can learn 2X, 5X, or even 10X faster with personalized AI tutoring

* The student who realized she was a “robot” with no passions after years of traditional schooling

* Why capitalism and profit are desperately needed to fix education (and why nonprofit models breed mediocrity)

* The “don’t boil the frog early” philosophy: why kids don’t need 12 years of training in how to be bored

* Training kids to be creators instead of consumers (building TikTok audiences vs doomscrolling)

K-12 education is an obviously broken system and Alpha is at the cutting edge of fixing it.

MacKenzie hosts a podcast called “Future of Education” which you can find here.

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