Madison and Lorenzo nerdout about snakes, senior animals, snake care and then they get into low maintenance pets, girl cats, Thievius Raccoonus, rock climbing, caving class, Bat Cave Mike, visiting Ohio university, party school, OU the superior band, no regrets, metal health struggles, eating disorder, 0.0 GPA, art major, finding your way, Glacier National Park, solo trip, pushback, camping, grizzly country and so much more!