From Christopher Green's The Singing Hypnotist to time travelling magical duo Morgan & West, our magical community is going strong, but it goes back a lot further. In this episode Max talks to Chris Green about the crossover between science and performance and what we can learn from the earliest hypnotists such as Anne De Montford, and Morgan & West talk low quality ghosts and Victorian spiritualism.

Morgan & West are here with More Magic for Kids next April: http://bit.ly/2yFD5Qf