Deb and Harrison talk about the concept of magic in fiction and life. Never sniff a necromancer's beard!

Note: Harrison was indeed wrong about Nicolas Flamel, who was not an architect but a scribe and bookseller who designed his own tombstone.

Mentioned in this episode:

Queen Victoria's Book of Spells, Introduction: Fantasy, Magic, & Fairyland in 19th Century England

Grimorium Verum

Nicolas Flamel, [not really an] alchemist

Octavia E. Butler, author

Walter Mosley, author

Nalo Hopkinson, author

Leslie Marmon Silko, author

Rebecca Roanhorse, author