Magic in the Muck

Who are you when you’re not helping, teaching, fixing, accomplishing, or being the one others can depend on?

In this solo episode, Jennifer explores the subtle difference between enjoying being useful and needing to be useful in order to feel valuable. Building on her recent conversations about caring without carrying and learning to receive, she looks beneath over-functioning and capability to the deeper human yearnings to matter, belong, and be loved — and invites us to experience the Self that remains when there is nothing we need to prove, fix, or earn.

This is an invitation not to become less caring or capable, but to have more freedom: to contribute because it is a genuine choice rather than evidence that we have earned our place.

What You’ll Hear:

• The subtle difference between enjoying being useful and needing usefulness to feel valuable
• How capability, responsibility, and attunement can be genuine resources while also becoming intertwined with identity and worth
• What may be happening underneath over-functioning when we look below the behaviour through the Satir Iceberg
• Why giving can sometimes feel safer than receiving — and how staying in the giver role can protect us from the vulnerability of having needs ourselves
• What it means to bring your being into your role without allowing the role to define your worth
• A gentle experiential practice for reconnecting with the Self underneath what you do

Resources Mentioned

• Episode 49 - Interview with Robyn Vogel

Meet the Host: Jennifer Nagel

Jennifer Nagel is a soul-centered counsellor, international facilitator, and best-selling author who has spent over two decades helping people navigate chaos, reconnect with their inner wisdom, and create meaningful, authentic lives. Deeply rooted in the Satir Model and experiential approaches to transformation, Jennifer brings a grounded presence, sharp insight, and a deep trust in the resources of the human spirit.

Her work spans continents and cultures — she has led programs and trainings in Canada, China, Kenya, Thailand, and Mexico, and currently serves as Director of Trainer Development with the Satir Institute of the Pacific. She is also senior faculty with the Banmen Satir China Management Centre.

Jennifer is the author of Magic in the Muck: Finding Grace in Chaos, co-author of Virginia Satir’s Evolving Legacy, and founder and co-author of the collaborative books Therapists Are Human Too and The Healing Journey to Authenticity, created through book-writing retreats she co-facilitated in Mexico.

Connect with the Host:

Website: www.jennifernagelcounselling.com

https://www.congruentpractice.com/

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jennifernagel1/

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/jennifer.nagel.566

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jennifernagelcounselling/

Costa Rica Retreat: Coming Home to Congruence: https://www.congruentpractice.com/costa-rica-retreat

If you’re longing for a place to connect with others on a soul-aligned journey of healing, growth, and transformation — come join us in the Magic in the Muck: A Soul’s Compass Community, our private Facebook group. It’s a welcoming space to explore the themes from the podcast, share your own magic-in-the-mess moments, and receive inspiration to navigate life’s changes with grace and soul.

💫 Click here to join the community https://www.facebook.com/groups/magicinthemuck

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What happens when the very strategies that once protected us begin to keep us from the love, intimacy and connection we long for?

In this warm and deeply personal conversation, Jennifer sits down with trauma-informed therapist, couples specialist and Come Back to Love creator Robyn Vogel to explore protective patterns, over-giving, vulnerability, and the often-overlooked practice of receiving. Together they explore what it means to soften without abandoning ourselves — and to come back to the love that may have been there underneath the armour all along.

What You’ll Hear:

• Why the protections we developed through loss, hurt and unmet needs can later make intimacy and connection harder to receive.
• How over-giving and self-sacrifice can actually become ways of avoiding receiving love, support and care.
• A simple way to notice the difference between a healthy boundary and protective armour that may now be keeping you distant from what you truly want.
• Why receiving can begin in tiny everyday moments — accepting a compliment, allowing support, saying “thank you,” and noticing the urge to minimize or push something away.
• What can happen when the roles of therapist, facilitator, parent or leader become places we hide — and how bringing more of our being into our roles creates deeper connection.
• The question Robyn returns to when she feels stuck: “What would love do?”

Resources Mentioned

• Robyn VogelCome Back to Love: A Path to Healing

Featured Guest: Robyn Vogel

Robyn Vogel, MA, is a trauma-informed spiritual guide, IFS-trained couples specialist, certified Love and Intimacy Coach, and creator of Come Back to Love®. She helps individuals and couples heal relational wounds, soften protective patterns, and build more emotionally secure, authentic connections. Robyn teaches internationally, leads transformational retreats, trains facilitators, and is the author of Come Back to Love: A Path to Healing.

Follow Robyn Vogel:

• Website: www.comebacktolove.com

Meet the Host: Jennifer Nagel

Jennifer Nagel is a soul-centered counsellor, international facilitator, and best-selling author who has spent over two decades helping people navigate chaos, reconnect with their inner wisdom, and create meaningful, authentic lives. Deeply rooted in the Satir Model and experiential approaches to transformation, Jennifer brings a grounded presence, sharp insight, and a deep trust in the resources of the human spirit.

Her work spans continents and cultures — she has led programs and trainings in Canada, China, Kenya, Thailand, and Mexico, and currently serves as Director of Trainer Development with the Satir Institute of the Pacific. She is also senior faculty with the Banmen Satir China Management Centre.

Jennifer is the author of Magic in the Muck: Finding Grace in Chaos, co-author of Virginia Satir’s Evolving Legacy, and founder and co-author of the collaborative books Therapists Are Human Too and The Healing Journey to Authenticity, created through book-writing retreats she co-facilitated in Mexico.

Connect with the Host:

Website: www.jennifernagelcounselling.com

https://www.congruentpractice.com/

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jennifernagel1/

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/jennifer.nagel.566

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jennifernagelcounselling/

Costa Rica Retreat: Coming Home to Congruence: https://www.congruentpractice.com/costa-rica-retreat

If you’re longing for a place to connect with others on a soul-aligned journey of healing, growth, and transformation — come join us in the Magic in the Muck: A Soul’s Compass Community, our private Facebook group. It’s a welcoming space to explore the themes from the podcast, share your own magic-in-the-mess moments, and receive inspiration to navigate life’s changes with grace and soul.

💫 Click here to join the community https://www.facebook.com/groups/magicinthemuck

And if you’d like to receive occasional updates about new podcast episodes, upcoming retreats, and other soulful offerings, you can sign up for the Magic in the Muck email list here:

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Do you find yourself noticing what everyone else needs — and then feeling responsible for making things better? In this solo episode, Jennifer explores the subtle shift from caring to carrying, and how trusting in another person’s capacity can help us stay deeply connected to others without losing connection with ourselves.

Through a personal story about learning to step back as a parent, Jennifer explores what can become possible when we stop clearing the path for others and leave enough space for their own resources to emerge.

• How being highly attuned to others can quietly become feeling responsible for their experience.
• The subtle but powerful difference between caring for someone and carrying what belongs to them.
• Why trust may be one of the missing ingredients when we’re trying to help someone we love.
• How stepping back can give others room to discover their own capacity — and give us the opportunity to see it too.
• Why therapists and helpers can care deeply about someone’s healing without becoming responsible for the outcome.
• A gentle experiential reflection to explore: What belongs to me, what belongs to them, and can I stay connected without leaving myself?

• www.congruentpractice.com/webinars
• Episode 47 with Johanna Lynn

Meet the Host: Jennifer Nagel

Jennifer Nagel is a soul-centered counsellor, international facilitator, and best-selling author who has spent over two decades helping people navigate chaos, reconnect with their inner wisdom, and create meaningful, authentic lives. Deeply rooted in the Satir Model and experiential approaches to transformation, Jennifer brings a grounded presence, sharp insight, and a deep trust in the resources of the human spirit.

Her work spans continents and cultures — she has led programs and trainings in Canada, China, Kenya, Thailand, and Mexico, and currently serves as Director of Trainer Development with the Satir Institute of the Pacific. She is also senior faculty with the Banmen Satir China Management Centre.

Jennifer is the author of Magic in the Muck: Finding Grace in Chaos, co-author of Virginia Satir’s Evolving Legacy, and founder and co-author of the collaborative books Therapists Are Human Too and The Healing Journey to Authenticity, created through book-writing retreats she co-facilitated in Mexico.

Connect with the Host:

Website: www.jennifernagelcounselling.com

https://www.congruentpractice.com/

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jennifernagel1/

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/jennifer.nagel.566

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jennifernagelcounselling/

Costa Rica Retreat: Coming Home to Congruence: https://www.congruentpractice.com/costa-rica-retreat

If you’re longing for a place to connect with others on a soul-aligned journey of healing, growth, and transformation — come join us in the Magic in the Muck: A Soul’s Compass Community, our private Facebook group. It’s a welcoming space to explore the themes from the podcast, share your own magic-in-the-mess moments, and receive inspiration to navigate life’s changes with grace and soul.

💫 Click here to join the community https://www.facebook.com/groups/magicinthemuck

And if you’d like to receive occasional updates about new podcast episodes, upcoming retreats, and other soulful offerings, you can sign up for the Magic in the Muck email list here:

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Have you ever found yourself caught in the same relationship pattern again and wondered, Why am I still doing this when I know better? Sometimes the patterns we struggle to change didn’t begin with us — they were shaped within the families we grew up in and may even reach back through generations.

In this rich conversation, systemic therapist and Family Imprint Institute founder Johanna Lynn joins Jennifer to explore how our family imprints shape the ways we love, caretake, react, and relate — and how curiosity, self-compassion, and greater awareness can help us loosen old patterns and create more freedom to choose who and how we want to be.

What You’ll Hear:

• Why “that’s just who I am” may only be the first page of your story.
• How inherited family patterns shape the way you love, react, and relate.
• Why getting curious instead of furious can transform relationship triggers.
• How self-compassion creates space for new choices when old patterns return.
• Experience Johanna’s guided Family Table meditation to explore your own family imprint, belonging, and what you may be carrying forward.

Featured Guest:

Johanna Lynn, founder of The Family Imprint Institute, uncovers the hidden dynamics shaping your relationships. Sharing 20 years of experience to untangle what’s been ‘wrong’ & connect it to where the pattern stems from to truly understand what prevents you from having the closeness we all desire in our loving connections.

Follow Johanna:

Website: www.johannalynn.ca

Instagram: [@handle]https://www.instagram.com/ask.therapist.johanna/

Meet the Host: Jennifer Nagel

Jennifer Nagel is a soul-centered counsellor, international facilitator, and best-selling author who has spent over two decades helping people navigate chaos, reconnect with their inner wisdom, and create meaningful, authentic lives. Deeply rooted in the Satir Model and experiential approaches to transformation, Jennifer brings a grounded presence, sharp insight, and a deep trust in the resources of the human spirit.

Her work spans continents and cultures — she has led programs and trainings in Canada, China, Kenya, Thailand, and Mexico, and currently serves as Director of Trainer Development with the Satir Institute of the Pacific. She is also senior faculty with the Banmen Satir China Management Centre.

Jennifer is the author of Magic in the Muck: Finding Grace in Chaos, co-author of Virginia Satir’s Evolving Legacy, and founder and co-author of the collaborative books Therapists Are Human Too and The Healing Journey to Authenticity, created through book-writing retreats she co-facilitated in Mexico.

Connect with the Host:

Website: www.jennifernagelcounselling.com

https://www.congruentpractice.com/

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jennifernagel1/

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/jennifer.nagel.566

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jennifernagelcounselling/

Costa Rica Retreat: Coming Home to Congruence: https://www.congruentpractice.com/costa-rica-retreat

If you’re longing for a place to connect with others on a soul-aligned journey of healing, growth, and transformation — come join us in the Magic in the Muck: A Soul’s Compass Community, our private Facebook group. It’s a welcoming space to explore the themes from the podcast, share your own magic-in-the-mess moments, and receive inspiration to navigate life’s changes with grace and soul.

💫 Click here to join the community https://www.facebook.com/groups/magicinthemuck

And if you’d like to receive occasional updates about new podcast episodes, upcoming retreats, and other soulful offerings, you can sign up for the Magic in the Muck email list here:

📬 Sign up to stay connected (subscribepage.io/REMTuN)

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Over the past few episodes, a quiet thread has been emerging.

What if healing isn't always about becoming someone new, but about remembering who we've always been?

In this reflective solo episode, Jennifer explores the idea of "coming home"—not as a place, but as a way of being. Woven together from recent conversations about rest, belonging, and congruence, this episode is an invitation to pause, breathe, and reconnect with the part of yourself that has never truly been lost.

If you've been carrying a great deal lately, or feeling disconnected from yourself beneath the many roles you hold, this gentle reflection offers space to exhale...and perhaps to remember.

Gentle Invitations

• To notice the quiet thread running through your own life.
• To consider whether healing is sometimes more about remembering than becoming.
• To explore what it might mean to become your own home.
• To practice returning to yourself with kindness, again and again.

Resources Mentioned

• Episode 42: The Therapist's Exhale
• Episode 44: An Invitation to Exhale (Guided Meditation)
• Episode 45: Remembering Home with Indra Jones

Meet the Host: Jennifer Nagel

Jennifer Nagel is a soul-centered counsellor, international facilitator, and best-selling author who has spent over two decades helping people navigate chaos, reconnect with their inner wisdom, and create meaningful, authentic lives. Deeply rooted in the Satir Model and experiential approaches to transformation, Jennifer brings a grounded presence, sharp insight, and a deep trust in the resources of the human spirit.

Her work spans continents and cultures — she has led programs and trainings in Canada, China, Kenya, Thailand, and Mexico, and currently serves as Director of Trainer Development with the Satir Institute of the Pacific. She is also senior faculty with the Banmen Satir China Management Centre.

Jennifer is the author of Magic in the Muck: Finding Grace in Chaos, co-author of Virginia Satir’s Evolving Legacy, and founder and co-author of the collaborative books Therapists Are Human Too and The Healing Journey to Authenticity, created through book-writing retreats she co-facilitated in Mexico.

Connect with the Host:

Website: www.jennifernagelcounselling.com

https://www.congruentpractice.com/

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jennifernagel1/

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/jennifer.nagel.566

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jennifernagelcounselling/

Costa Rica Retreat: Coming Home to Congruence: https://www.congruentpractice.com/costa-rica-retreat

If you’re longing for a place to connect with others on a soul-aligned journey of healing, growth, and transformation — come join us in the Magic in the Muck: A Soul’s Compass Community, our private Facebook group. It’s a welcoming space to explore the themes from the podcast, share your own magic-in-the-mess moments, and receive inspiration to navigate life’s changes with grace and soul.

💫 Click here to join the community https://www.facebook.com/groups/magicinthemuck

And if you’d like to receive occasional updates about new podcast episodes, upcoming retreats, and other soulful offerings, you can sign up for the Magic in the Muck email list here:

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What if "coming home" isn't about finding a place, but remembering who you've always been? In this heartfelt conversation, Indra Jones and I explore belonging, presence, nature, ancestry, and the quiet journey back to ourselves.

What You’ll Hear:

• What it really means to "come home" to yourself.
• How belonging shapes our sense of identity and wellbeing.
• Recognizing the beliefs and patterns we've inherited—and gently discerning which ones are truly ours.
• The wisdom of nature as a guide for healing, remembering, and reconnecting.
• The role of ancestors, future generations, and our deeper sense of purpose.
• Why healing is often less about becoming someone different and more about remembering who we've always been.

Resources Mentioned

Indra offers 1-1 and group sessions on line and in person. She facilitates retreats in sacred nature places around the world including the UK, Egypt, Morocco and India.

Retreats: The next retreat with co-facilitator Lizzie Allan is the ‘Love, Light and Laughter retreat’ at 42 Acres in Somerset, UK from 24th-31st July. Retreat info and tickets here: https://www.lizzieallan.com/retreats

Sessions: For 1-1 sessions on line email [email protected]

Visioning circle: For a free monthly visioning circles and small group containers visit https://thrive.one/

Instagram: For more info on upcoming retreats follow @indra.jones

Website: [email protected] is being updated. Coming soon!

Featured Guest:

Indra Jones is a trauma-informed therapist, mentor, and guide whose work weaves together EFT, Matrix Reimprinting, and Shamanic Energy Medicine. Growing up between cultures - from the jungles of Malaysia among the Orang Asli people to life in the United Kingdom - shaped her lifelong exploration of belonging, identity, and remembering who we are beneath the layers of conditioning.

Follow Indra Jones:

Indra offers 1-1 and group sessions on line and in person. She facilitates retreats in sacred nature places around the world including the UK, Egypt, Morocco and India.

Retreats: The next retreat with co-facilitator Lizzie Allan is the ‘Love, Light and Laughter retreat’ at 42 Acres in Somerset, UK from 24th-31st July. Retreat info and tickets here: https://www.lizzieallan.com/retreats

Sessions: For 1-1 sessions on line email [email protected]

Visioning circle: For a free monthly visioning circles and small group containers visit https://thrive.one/

Instagram: For more info on upcoming retreats follow @indra.jones

Website: [email protected] is being updated. Coming soon!

Meet the Host: Jennifer Nagel

Jennifer Nagel is a soul-centered counsellor, international facilitator, and best-selling author who has spent over two decades helping people navigate chaos, reconnect with their inner wisdom, and create meaningful, authentic lives. Deeply rooted in the Satir Model and experiential approaches to transformation, Jennifer brings a grounded presence, sharp insight, and a deep trust in the resources of the human spirit.

Her work spans continents and cultures — she has led programs and trainings in Canada, China, Kenya, Thailand, and Mexico, and currently serves as Director of Trainer Development with the Satir Institute of the Pacific. She is also senior faculty with the Banmen Satir China Management Centre.

Jennifer is the author of Magic in the Muck: Finding Grace in Chaos, co-author of Virginia Satir’s Evolving Legacy, and founder and co-author of the collaborative books Therapists Are Human Too and The Healing Journey to Authenticity, created through book-writing retreats she co-facilitated in Mexico.

Connect with the Host:

Website: www.jennifernagelcounselling.com

https://www.congruentpractice.com/

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jennifernagel1/

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/jennifer.nagel.566

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jennifernagelcounselling/

Costa Rica Retreat: Coming Home to Congruence: https://www.congruentpractice.com/costa-rica-retreat

If you’re longing for a place to connect with others on a soul-aligned journey of healing, growth, and transformation — come join us in the Magic in the Muck: A Soul’s Compass Community, our private Facebook group. It’s a welcoming space to explore the themes from the podcast, share your own magic-in-the-mess moments, and receive inspiration to navigate life’s changes with grace and soul.

💫 Click here to join the community https://www.facebook.com/groups/magicinthemuck

And if you’d like to receive occasional updates about new podcast episodes, upcoming retreats, and other soulful offerings, you can sign up for the Magic in the Muck email list here:

📬 Sign up to stay connected (subscribepage.io/REMTuN)

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Sometimes the most nourishing thing we can offer ourselves isn't another strategy or another insight—it's a pause. In this gentle guided meditation, I invite you to slow down, reconnect with yourself, and remember the quiet steadiness that has been within you all along.

In This Episode You'll Experience:

• A gentle guided meditation to help you slow down, breathe, and reconnect with yourself.
• An opportunity to listen to what your body may have been quietly holding for you.
• A reminder that your inner steadiness and wisdom have never disappeared—they've simply been waiting to be remembered.
• A practice of receiving the same kindness and compassion you so often offer to others.
• A quiet invitation to carry a little more gentleness, spaciousness, and presence into the rest of your day.

Reflection Invitation

As you finish this meditation, you may wish to spend a few quiet moments reflecting or journaling.

You might ask yourself:

- What did I notice within myself today?

- What gentle reminder emerged from my wiser, steadier self?

- What do I want to carry with me from this pause?

Meet the Host: Jennifer Nagel

Jennifer Nagel is a soul-centered counsellor, international facilitator, and best-selling author who has spent over two decades helping people navigate chaos, reconnect with their inner wisdom, and create meaningful, authentic lives. Deeply rooted in the Satir Model and experiential approaches to transformation, Jennifer brings a grounded presence, sharp insight, and a deep trust in the resources of the human spirit.

Her work spans continents and cultures — she has led programs and trainings in Canada, China, Kenya, Thailand, and Mexico, and currently serves as Director of Trainer Development with the Satir Institute of the Pacific. She is also senior faculty with the Banmen Satir China Management Centre.

Jennifer is the author of Magic in the Muck: Finding Grace in Chaos, co-author of Virginia Satir’s Evolving Legacy, and founder and co-author of the collaborative books Therapists Are Human Too and The Healing Journey to Authenticity, created through book-writing retreats she co-facilitated in Mexico.

Connect with the Host:

Website: www.jennifernagelcounselling.com

https://www.congruentpractice.com/

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jennifernagel1/

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/jennifer.nagel.566

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jennifernagelcounselling/

Costa Rica Retreat: Coming Home to Congruence: https://www.congruentpractice.com/costa-rica-retreat

If you’re longing for a place to connect with others on a soul-aligned journey of healing, growth, and transformation — come join us in the Magic in the Muck: A Soul’s Compass Community, our private Facebook group. It’s a welcoming space to explore the themes from the podcast, share your own magic-in-the-mess moments, and receive inspiration to navigate life’s changes with grace and soul.

💫 Click here to join the community https://www.facebook.com/groups/magicinthemuck

And if you’d like to receive occasional updates about new podcast episodes, upcoming retreats, and other soulful offerings, you can sign up for the Magic in the Muck email list here:

📬 Sign up to stay connected (subscribepage.io/REMTuN)

Magic in the Muck: A Soul’s Compass for Change is proud to be on the High Vibe Podcast Network. Check out Jennifer’s Gift in the Vault https://highvibepodcastnetwork.com/gifts

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What if the thing you’re calling “rest” isn’t actually restoring you?

In this heartfelt solo episode, Jennifer explores the difference between simply stopping and truly being replenished. Drawing from a deeply restorative morning spent in authentic community, along with reflections from recent experiences in Costa Rica and China, she invites listeners to consider what actually nourishes them when life feels full — and why rest alone doesn’t always reach the places within us that most need tending.

What You’ll Hear:

• Why rest and restoration are not always the same thing
• The subtle difference between collapse, distraction, and genuine replenishment
• Jennifer’s personal reflection on almost choosing productivity over nourishment - and what happened when she said yes to authentic community instead
• How to recognize when your body, heart, and nervous system are asking for something deeper than “a break”
• Why restorative experiences often reconnect us to ourselves, to others, and to what matters most
• Gentle questions to help you notice what actually nourishes you when life feels full

Resources Mentioned

🌿 The Therapist’s Exhale – Free webinar with Jennifer Nagel & Lisa Catallo

Thursday, June 25, 2026

Registration: www.congruentpractice.com/webinars

🎧 Related episode:

The Therapist’s Exhale: The Space Between Holding and Letting Go

Meet the Host: Jennifer Nagel

Jennifer Nagel is a soul-centered counsellor, international facilitator, and best-selling author who has spent over two decades helping people navigate chaos, reconnect with their inner wisdom, and create meaningful, authentic lives. Deeply rooted in the Satir Model and experiential approaches to transformation, Jennifer brings a grounded presence, sharp insight, and a deep trust in the resources of the human spirit.

Her work spans continents and cultures — she has led programs and trainings in Canada, China, Kenya, Thailand, and Mexico, and currently serves as Director of Trainer Development with the Satir Institute of the Pacific. She is also senior faculty with the Banmen Satir China Management Centre.

Jennifer is the author of Magic in the Muck: Finding Grace in Chaos, co-author of Virginia Satir’s Evolving Legacy, and founder and co-author of the collaborative books Therapists Are Human Too and The Healing Journey to Authenticity, created through book-writing retreats she co-facilitated in Mexico.

Connect with the Host:

Website: www.jennifernagelcounselling.com

https://www.congruentpractice.com/

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jennifernagel1/

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/jennifer.nagel.566

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jennifernagelcounselling/

Costa Rica Retreat: Coming Home to Congruence: https://www.congruentpractice.com/costa-rica-retreat

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What are you carrying that you may not even realize you're holding? In this heartfelt solo episode, Jennifer reflects on two very different journeys—time spent in Costa Rica reconnecting with herself and time spent teaching and leading in China—and the powerful lessons both experiences revealed about caring, carrying, and creating space to breathe. Through personal stories, gentle reflection, and the wisdom of Virginia Satir's concept of congruence, this episode invites listeners to soften their grip, reconnect with themselves, and discover where the exhale begins.

What You’ll Hear:

- The surprising difference between caring deeply and carrying deeply

- Why doing a lot and holding a lot are not the same thing

- Jennifer's personal reflections from Costa Rica and China on leadership, responsibility, and restoration

- How small moments of connection with nature became "exhale moments" amidst a demanding teaching schedule

- One of the hidden barriers to congruence that many helpers, therapists, leaders, and caregivers experience

- Why creating space isn't a luxury—it may be one of the most important necessities for well-being

Resources Mentioned:

The Therapist's Exhale (Free Webinar with Jennifer Nagel & Lisa Catallo)

June 25, 11:00 AM – 12:30 PM Pacific Time

Registration link: [Insert Webinar Link]https://www.congruentpractice.com/webinars

Book: Magic in the Muck: Finding Grace in Chaos

Meet the Host: Jennifer Nagel

Jennifer Nagel is a soul-centered counsellor, international facilitator, and best-selling author who has spent over two decades helping people navigate chaos, reconnect with their inner wisdom, and create meaningful, authentic lives. Deeply rooted in the Satir Model and experiential approaches to transformation, Jennifer brings a grounded presence, sharp insight, and a deep trust in the resources of the human spirit.

Her work spans continents and cultures — she has led programs and trainings in Canada, China, Kenya, Thailand, and Mexico, and currently serves as Director of Trainer Development with the Satir Institute of the Pacific. She is also senior faculty with the Banmen Satir China Management Centre.

Jennifer is the author of Magic in the Muck: Finding Grace in Chaos, co-author of Virginia Satir’s Evolving Legacy, and founder and co-author of the collaborative books Therapists Are Human Too and The Healing Journey to Authenticity, created through book-writing retreats she co-facilitated in Mexico.

Connect with the Host:

Website: www.jennifernagelcounselling.com

https://www.congruentpractice.com/

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jennifernagel1/

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/jennifer.nagel.566

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jennifernagelcounselling/

Costa Rica Retreat: Coming Home to Congruence: https://www.congruentpractice.com/costa-rica-retreat

If you’re longing for a place to connect with others on a soul-aligned journey of healing, growth, and transformation — come join us in the Magic in the Muck: A Soul’s Compass Community, our private Facebook group. It’s a welcoming space to explore the themes from the podcast, share your own magic-in-the-mess moments, and receive inspiration to navigate life’s changes with grace and soul.

💫 Click here to join the community https://www.facebook.com/groups/magicinthemuck

And if you’d like to receive occasional updates about new podcast episodes, upcoming retreats, and other soulful offerings, you can sign up for the Magic in the Muck email list here:

📬 Sign up to stay connected (subscribepage.io/REMTuN)

Magic in the Muck: A Soul’s Compass for Change is proud to be on the High Vibe Podcast Network. Check out Jennifer’s Gift in the Vault https://highvibepodcastnetwork.com/gifts

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What if leadership isn’t something you earn — but something you awaken?

In this week’s conversation, Jennifer sits down with certified human design business and leadership coach Nancy O'Keefe to explore what it means to lead from within. Together, they unpack the fears, conditioning, self-doubt, and relational shifts that often keep women playing small — and how reconnecting to our inner knowing can become the doorway to authentic leadership, congruence, and self-trust.

This episode is a grounded and soulful exploration of leadership beyond titles or status — one that invites you to stop asking whether you’re “qualified” and begin asking whether you’re willing to step into the light that’s already within you.

In This Episode, We Explore:

• Why leadership is not reserved for a select few
• The hidden fears that keep women from stepping fully into themselves
• How loneliness and belonging can shape personal growth and visibility
• What human design reveals about your natural wiring and leadership style
• The importance of listening to the body instead of overthinking in the mind
• How boundaries become a doorway to authentic leadership
• What it means to trust yourself — especially in uncertain seasons
• Finding “magic in the muck” by staying true to yourself through life’s challenges

Resources Mentioned

Free Human Design Leadership Report available on Nancy’s homepage

Featured Guest: Nancy Okeefe

NANCY OKEEFE is a Certified Human Design Business and Leadership Coach who is on a mission to encourage women to step into the foreground and Lead with Their Light using their Human Design. “We need more feminine leadership in the world,” says OKeefe,.The world needs everyone’s contribution. Everyone is a leader and I can prove it.” Nancy is a certified Executive Coach from the College of Executive Coaching, holds an MBA from Babson College in Entrepreneurship

Follow Nancy:

Website: www.nancyokeefecoaching.com

Free Gift: Free Human Design Leadership Report available on Nancy’s homepage

Meet the Host: Jennifer Nagel

Jennifer Nagel is a soul-centered counsellor, international facilitator, and best-selling author who has spent over two decades helping people navigate chaos, reconnect with their inner wisdom, and create meaningful, authentic lives. Deeply rooted in the Satir Model and experiential approaches to transformation, Jennifer brings a grounded presence, sharp insight, and a deep trust in the resources of the human spirit.

Her work spans continents and cultures — she has led programs and trainings in Canada, China, Kenya, Thailand, and Mexico, and currently serves as Director of Trainer Development with the Satir Institute of the Pacific. She is also senior faculty with the Banmen Satir China Management Centre.

Jennifer is the author of Magic in the Muck: Finding Grace in Chaos, co-author of Virginia Satir’s Evolving Legacy, and founder and co-author of the collaborative books Therapists Are Human Too and The Healing Journey to Authenticity, created through book-writing retreats she co-facilitated in Mexico.

Connect with the Host:

Website: www.jennifernagelcounselling.com

https://www.congruentpractice.com/

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jennifernagel1/

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/jennifer.nagel.566

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jennifernagelcounselling/

Costa Rica Retreat: Coming Home to Congruence: https://www.congruentpractice.com/costa-rica-retreat

If you’re longing for a place to connect with others on a soul-aligned journey of healing, growth, and transformation — come join us in the Magic in the Muck: A Soul’s Compass Community, our private Facebook group. It’s a welcoming space to explore the themes from the podcast, share your own magic-in-the-mess moments, and receive inspiration to navigate life’s changes with grace and soul.

💫 Click here to join the community https://www.facebook.com/groups/magicinthemuck

And if you’d like to receive occasional updates about new podcast episodes, upcoming retreats, and other soulful offerings, you can sign up for the Magic in the Muck email list here:

📬 Sign up to stay connected (subscribepage.io/REMTuN)

Magic in the Muck: A Soul’s Compass for Change is proud to be on the High Vibe Podcast Network. Check out Jennifer’s Gift in the Vault https://highvibepodcastnetwork.com/gifts

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