Paul talks at length with Tina about a wide range of topics. If you are considering more expensive cabinetry this is an especially relevant episode. Painted finishes are discussed at length. As are custom paint finishes. What types of people make good designers is discussed. Design techniques used for 10 foot high ceilings such as stacked cabinets and moldings, and tray and coffered ceilings are compared. If you have high ceilings this is an episode you should listen to.