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Follow Along parts:
---From the first chapter of Mark:
10 On coming up out of the water he saw the heavens being torn open and the Spirit, like a dove, descending upon him. 11 And a voice came from the heavens, “You are my beloved Son; with you I am well pleased.” 12At once the Spirit drove him out into the desert,
Matthew 3:16-17
After Jesus was baptized, he came up from the water and behold, the heavens were opened [for him], and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove [and] coming upon him. 17And a voice came from the heavens, saying, “This is my beloved Son, with whom I am well pleased.”
---I'm skipping the Luke because it's the same thing. Now listen to this:
Jerome, Late 4th century A.D.:
"According to the Gospel written in the Hebrew speech, which the Nazarenes read, I find this written:
“And it came to pass when the Lord had come up out of the water, the whole fount of the Holy Spirit descended and rested upon him, and said unto him: ‘My son, in all the prophets was I waiting for you, that you should come, and I might rest in you. For you are my rest, and you are my first begotten son, that reigns for ever’.”
--Things get left out - things get put in:
KJV: Matthew 5:22
22 But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.
--Can't get it past Jerome, though. Jerome realized that sine causa was added later and thus did not include it in his translation of the Vulgate. It is not found in any Alexandrine text, such as the Codex Sinaiaticus. Its not found in the NAB or the NIV or other translations that don''t use the late "textus receptus."
--When scholars explain verses not included they often use this language: "Not found in the best, earliest manuscripts" But what are those?
- The verse is absent from the "Alexandrian family" of manuscripts, which date from 200 to 400 AD.
- The verse is present the majority of Old Latin copies, dating from the 4th and 5th centuries and a majority of medieval (mid 5th to 14th centuries) Greek manuscripts.
- The verse appears in the "Byzantine family" of manuscripts, which are from 500 to 1000 AD.
The topic of the podcast is: IF YOU DON'T LIKE WHAT JESUS SAID, JUST LEAVE IT OUT, OR MAKE HIM SAY SOMETHING ELSE.
Or don't bother reading Him at all.
TEXT Kyrie here.
THIS PODCAST IS NOT MONETIZED. LINKS:
Contact: [email protected]
CLOUD OF UNKNOWING Evelyn Underhill edition - free
HERETIC'S REDDIT HOME
Revelations of Divine Love [free PDF] Julian of Norwich
What the Gehenna?
The Collected Works of St. John of the Cross
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By Kyrie DicentisFollow Along parts:
---From the first chapter of Mark:
10 On coming up out of the water he saw the heavens being torn open and the Spirit, like a dove, descending upon him. 11 And a voice came from the heavens, “You are my beloved Son; with you I am well pleased.” 12At once the Spirit drove him out into the desert,
Matthew 3:16-17
After Jesus was baptized, he came up from the water and behold, the heavens were opened [for him], and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove [and] coming upon him. 17And a voice came from the heavens, saying, “This is my beloved Son, with whom I am well pleased.”
---I'm skipping the Luke because it's the same thing. Now listen to this:
Jerome, Late 4th century A.D.:
"According to the Gospel written in the Hebrew speech, which the Nazarenes read, I find this written:
“And it came to pass when the Lord had come up out of the water, the whole fount of the Holy Spirit descended and rested upon him, and said unto him: ‘My son, in all the prophets was I waiting for you, that you should come, and I might rest in you. For you are my rest, and you are my first begotten son, that reigns for ever’.”
--Things get left out - things get put in:
KJV: Matthew 5:22
22 But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.
--Can't get it past Jerome, though. Jerome realized that sine causa was added later and thus did not include it in his translation of the Vulgate. It is not found in any Alexandrine text, such as the Codex Sinaiaticus. Its not found in the NAB or the NIV or other translations that don''t use the late "textus receptus."
--When scholars explain verses not included they often use this language: "Not found in the best, earliest manuscripts" But what are those?
- The verse is absent from the "Alexandrian family" of manuscripts, which date from 200 to 400 AD.
- The verse is present the majority of Old Latin copies, dating from the 4th and 5th centuries and a majority of medieval (mid 5th to 14th centuries) Greek manuscripts.
- The verse appears in the "Byzantine family" of manuscripts, which are from 500 to 1000 AD.
The topic of the podcast is: IF YOU DON'T LIKE WHAT JESUS SAID, JUST LEAVE IT OUT, OR MAKE HIM SAY SOMETHING ELSE.
Or don't bother reading Him at all.
TEXT Kyrie here.
THIS PODCAST IS NOT MONETIZED. LINKS:
Contact: [email protected]
CLOUD OF UNKNOWING Evelyn Underhill edition - free
HERETIC'S REDDIT HOME
Revelations of Divine Love [free PDF] Julian of Norwich
What the Gehenna?
The Collected Works of St. John of the Cross