Today's guest is Devin Burghart, executive director of the Institute For Education And Research On Human Rights. Devin is an author and expert on the pipeline from online hate culture to real-life racist and white nationalist movements, and we talk about the new generation of 'irony racists', the way they attract and repel people, and the importance of bitcoin in sustaining their platforms.

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