Sean and Nick sit down with Camden (NJ) FD Captain Bobby Eckert of Eckert Fire Training. The crew discusses the importance of realistic, relatable training, tactics and the training mindset in this gritty, fast-paced, real-world, street-proven conversation. This dialogue will hopefully challenge you to dig deep and consider whether what we are doing is indeed best practice and consistent with data driven and street-proven fireground operations. So, grab a drink and buckle up! Episode 17 starts now!