In today's episode Greg & Colin talk about what it takes to be a real leader and whether that's actually something we should all want. We also talk about whether you need to be a leader to move up and Greg discusses lessons learned from Ernest Shackleton (great name) and recommends checking out books on his adventures and leadership (link below). As always, if you like the podcast please listen, follow and share. And Check us out on facebook! Check out "Shackleton's Way: Leadership Lessons from the Great Antarctic Explorer" https://www.amazon.ca/Shackletons-Way-Leadership-Antarctic-Explorer/dp/0142002364)