We've been looking forward to this chat with Billie Ruben for months and we were not disappointed. We waffled about degree choices, ADHD, neural networks, 3D printing and the connection between kangaroos and t-rex.

A long list of most of the people and things we mentioned, with links to where they can be found, is in the description of the YouTube video for this episode: https://youtu.be/1IpYZd8Nb38

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