Today's episode is really special. It's a conversation that will undoubtedly change your perspective on what it means to be creative. I'm joined by Caitlin Marshall and Lizzie Rose, the founders of MakeShift, an award-winning agency that provides trauma-informed creativity and mental health programs for communities, workplaces and groups throughout Australia.

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Since 2013, makeShit have worked with thousands of people, including first responders; communities affected by bushfires and floods; corporate clients such as Atlassian, Canva, AMP Capital and organisations including Sydney Opera House, Support Act, Creative Australia and more.

Caitlin is a qualified social worker and trainer in vicarious trauma management and gender-based violence, who has had one foot in the creative arts since adolescence. Lizzie is a community development practitioner, sustainability educator and qualified yoga teacher.

Their new book is called Creative First Aid: The Science + Joy of Creativity for Mental Health (2024, Murdoch Books).

Follow MakeShift on Instagram or check out their website.

If you enjoyed this conversation, you'll flip for The Creative Urge.