Director of OpenShift Strategy & CloudCast host Brian Gracely joins the podcast to talk Kubernetes in the enterprise. As a previously active member of the OpenStack community, Brian brings a unique view as he now leads strategy for Kubernetes at Red Hat.

Keith and Brian talk discuss the effort to make OpenStack-based OpenShift a PaaS and the lessons learned to the Kubernetes distribution. A critical part of the conversation is how Red Hat brings their enterprise experience to making Kubernetes consumable for the typical enterprise IT shop.

At 22:00, Keith asks the competitive question. It’s not the obvious OpenShift vs. VMware PKS but Openshift vs. public cloud services.