John and Sarah are joined by John's husband, Jerry, to discuss 1982's Making Love, starring Harry Hamlin, Kate Jackson, and Michael Ontkean.

Sources for this episode:

The Celluloid Closet. Directed by Rob Epstein and Jeffrey Friedman, Sony Pictures Classics, 15 Feb. 1996.

American Film Institute. “AFI Catalogue of Feature Films - the First 100 Years - 1893-1993 - Making Love (1982).” Afi.com, 2021, catalog.afi.com/Catalog/moviedetails/56843

Wygant, Bobbie. “Harry Hamlin for “Making Love” - 1982 - Bobbie Wygant Archive.” Youtube.com, 1982, youtu.be/V6zahQSekNc?si=SKZgzs6Q0bV2H1DQ

Wygant, Bobbie. “Kate Jackson for "Making Love 1982- Bobbie Wygant Archive.” Youtube.com, 1982, youtu.be/V6zahQSekNc?si=SKZgzs6Q0bV2H1DQ

Bobbie, Wygant. "Arthur Hiller for “Making Love” 1982- Bobbie Wygant Archive." 1982, youtu.be/BJW3a1PGMIU?si=Phx8VXuY9EHi_2FY

Editors. “Harry Hamlin on How His Gay Role in 1982 Still Impacts Audiences despite Being “Sanitized” by the Studio - Queerty.” Queerty, 23 Oct. 2024, www.queerty.com/harry-hamlin-on-how-his-gay-role-in-1982-still-impacts-audiences-despite-being-sanitized-by-the-studio-20241022/

Abramovitch, Seth, and Seth Pope. It Happened in Hollywood - Harry Hamlin: “Clash of the Titans” and “Making Love.” The Hollywood Reporter, 18 Jan. 2020, open.spotify.com/episode/0jOhR7VUVhlC5iV0HaeZD4?si=zKNDI0ySTyuLzOZbJ_SHyg, disc 13. Podcast.

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