This episode is all about the future of camping, RVing and road trips. The world has changed and the green movement is finding its way into the outdoor industry in many ways.

Van life will certainly be a more affordable option for many, so today we talk to a listener of the show, Nick. As he and his wife approach retirement, they're making the change from a popup camper to a full-sized van. Let's let Nick explain the vehicle and the plan.