Change is the only constant, and no one knows this better than my guest, former F-16 and Thunderbird Fighter Pilot, Michelle Curran.

Call sign "Mace," her story is a testament to the power of embracing change and taking risks. As a farm kid from Wisconsin, she became one of the squadron's first F-16 Thunderbird pilots before making The Trade to launch a new career as an entrepreneur. Listen as she shares her "Normal 40 moment."

Michelle and I find plenty of common ground, especially our shared passion for piloting, and together we hope to inspire you to take action and make the changes you want to see in your life.

Michelle's journey is an exciting one, taking her from a small farm in Wisconsin to the top of the United State Air Force. Her story proves that change can come from the most unexpected places. Hear about her experiences in the cockpit, her transition from a regular pilot to a Thunderbird pilot, and the story behind her unique call sign.

Our chat also covers the nerves and pressure she experienced when participating in her first public event, her transition from a fighter pilot to an entrepreneur, and her thoughts on taking leaps of faith. This episode is a testament to the power of embracing change and taking risks.

Spoiler Alert - Mace launched a new book since we recorded this podcast. It's a children's book - and it is fantastic. You can buy "Upside Down Dreams" here: https://a.co/d/iESGilu

I never know who I will meet every time I hit "Join Meeting."

In this case, I am proud to now call Mace a friend.

This is the Normal 40, and this is your home.

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