Malcolm Turnbull is one of many recent Australian Prime Minister who was sacked by his own party. In his recently released memoirs, he writes about his fight with depression and thoughts of killing himself. 

The Columnist, Justin Smith, talks with him about that darkness, why the political life has become so unhealthy, and the moment he realised he was in real trouble. 

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The Columnist is a podcast designed to help us understand what is happening in the world one conversation at a time. 

Justin's debut novel Babies of the Rose is available for pre-order. 

Produced by Jay Mueller as part of the Bad Producer Podcast Network. 

 

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