Mamamia Out Loud

For years, the most damning thing anyone could say about Meghan Markle was that she doesn’t speak to her dad. This week, that story took a very dark turn. Holly, Jessie and Amelia unpack the allegations against Thomas Markle (which he denies), Meghan’s response and the role the tabloids have played in all of this.

Plus, if you’re having a rubbish start to the week, it could be because Mercury is now in retrograde in Scorpio! If that sentence gave you the maths-lady meme face, Amelia explains why the next ten days could change the world.

Also, Leigh Campbell, host of You Beauty, posted a very serious Instagram carousel over the weekend announcing a big life decision. We break down our thoughts.

And, Margot Robbie is back on Ramsay Street. Sort of. Yes even though Neighbours has vanished from our screens, it seems it could be coming back in a very different way.

Plus, if you’re in our wonderful Mamamia Outlouders Facebook group, Holly wants to have a chat…

If you or anyone you know needs expert help, please contact 1800 RESPECT (1800 737 732) — the National Sexual Assault, Domestic and Family Violence Counselling Service. If you are in immediate danger, call 000.

We’re so excited to be selected for Apple Podcasts Creators We Love, which recognises people who are trailblazers and leaders in podcasting. We’re featured alongside some other amazing Australian podcasters. You can check it out on Apple Podcasts or at apple.co/creatorsweloveau.

Get 20% off Fearless Swimwear when you become a Mamamia subscriber. You’ll also get subscriber-only podcast episodes, early listening, exclusive articles, giveaways, more partner discounts and our fitness app, MOVE, included for free.

What To Listen To Next: 

• Listen to our latest episode: The Case Against Being Nice
• Listen: Elon Musk & The 4 Hour Documentary We Can’t Watch
• Listen: What The Attack On Helen Haines Has Shown Us & The Russell Brand Strategy
• Listen: "Major Life Update. We're Getting Divorced. Any Questions?"
• Listen: Andy Lee & Bec Harding’s Royal Wedding & “Can I Crash On Your Couch?”
• Listen: Special Episode: Perimenopause, Out Loud
• Listen: The New Ways To Be Rude & “How Much Do You Earn?”
• Connect your subscription to Apple Podcasts

Get access to Very Peri, Mamamia's exclusive perimenopause series, for just $59. 25 world-leading experts, over 20 on-demand sessions, available now. We’ve sorted through the noise so you don't have to. Go to veryperi.com.au today. You hot? Same.

Check out the Mamamia Out Loud newsletter.

Discover more Mamamia Podcasts here including the very latest episode of Parenting Out Loud, the parenting podcast for people who don't listen to... parenting podcasts.

SUBSCRIBE here: Support independent women's media 

You can now watch our show in full length video on the Apple Podcast app - make sure your phone is up to date and we can't wait for you to see

Mamamia Out Loud on Apple

What to read: 

• Meghan Markle wrote her estranged father a pointed letter. It made one thing clear.
• 'They're destroying the monarchy.' The 8 weirdest moments from Thomas Markle's 'tell-all' interview.
• Maybe you wouldn’t speak to Harry & Meghan’s families, either.
• 'My phone addiction was genuinely taking over my life. This is the only thing that fixed it.'

THE END BITS: 

Check out our merch at MamamiaOutLoud.com

GET IN TOUCH:

Feedback? We’re listening. Send us an email at [email protected]

Share your story, feedback, or dilemma! Send us a voice message.

Join our Facebook group Mamamia Outlouders to talk about the show.

Follow us on Instagram @mamamiaoutloud and on Tiktok @mamamiaoutloud

Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land on which we have recorded this podcast.

Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribe

See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Somewhere on Lily Allen’s tour schedule, between soundcheck and emails, was “test butt plug”. Holly unpacks the new merch and asks whether celebrity sex toys are still smart business, or just the new perfume.

Plus, Jessie makes the case against being nice. Is keeping the peace quietly wrecking our relationships?

Also, the questions to ask your friends if you actually want to know them better, and why one of them is a slippery slope.

And of course our weekly reccos, including a podcast interview with a bombshell that had one of us gasping on the train, and Em’s defence of a movie nobody likes at all.

We’re so excited to be selected for Apple Podcasts Creators We Love, which recognises people who are trailblazers and leaders in podcasting. We’re featured alongside some other amazing Australian podcasters. You can check it out on Apple Podcasts or at apple.co/creatorsweloveau.

Skip the 12-week waitlist. Subscribe to Mamamia today and you’ll automatically go in the draw to win a $5,000 B2C Furniture voucher to spend online or in-store on pieces available right now. Subscribe today. T&Cs apply.

Recommendations

Em recommends Nobody Wants This season 3 AND has a defence of Digger

Jessie recommends Fruit Fly by Josh Silver  

Holly recommends the No Filter episode with Judith Lucy.

Keen for more? Check out the Mamamia Out Loud newsletter.

Get access to Very Peri, Mamamia's exclusive perimenopause series, for just $59. 25 world-leading experts, over 20 on-demand sessions, available now. We’ve sorted through the noise so you don't have to. Go to veryperi.com.au today. You hot? Same.

What To Listen To Next: 

• Listen to No Filter: Judith Lucy Wrote the Book on Wellness. Then She Got Cancer
• Listen to our latest episode: Elon Musk & The 4 Hour Documentary We Can’t Watch
• Listen: What The Attack On Helen Haines Has Shown Us & The Russell Brand Strategy
• Listen: "Major Life Update. We're Getting Divorced. Any Questions?"
• Listen: Andy Lee & Bec Harding’s Royal Wedding & “Can I Crash On Your Couch?”
• Listen: Special Episode: Perimenopause, Out Loud
• Listen: The New Ways To Be Rude & “How Much Do You Earn?”
• Connect your subscription to Apple Podcasts

Discover more Mamamia Podcasts here including the very latest episode of Parenting Out Loud, the parenting podcast for people who don't listen to... parenting podcasts.

SUBSCRIBE here: Support independent women's media 

You can now watch our show in full length video on the Apple Podcast app - make sure your phone is up to date and we can't wait for you to see

Mamamia Out Loud on Apple

What to read: 

• Nobody Wants This season 2 fixes what season one got wrong.
• When being too nice is actually holding you back.
• Judith Lucy wrote a book about wellness. Then life handed her a cruel twist.
• 'Some of my friendships were already dead. I just hadn't said it out loud.'

THE END BITS: 

Check out our merch at MamamiaOutLoud.com

GET IN TOUCH:

Feedback? We’re listening. Send us an email at [email protected]

Share your story, feedback, or dilemma! Send us a voice message.

Join our Facebook group Mamamia Outlouders to talk about the show.

Follow us on Instagram @mamamiaoutloud and on Tiktok @mamamiaoutloud

CREDITS:

Hosts: Holly Wainwright, Jessie Stephens & Emily Vernem

Acting Group Executive Producer: Georgie Page

Executive Producer: Keeshia Pettit

Video Producer: Matt Perry

Associate Producer: Tessa Kotowicz

Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land on which we have recorded this podcast.

Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribe

See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

“Thank you, you lovely people. I appreciate your help.” Those were reportedly Helen Haines’s first words to the strangers who ran to her aid outside her Wangaratta office on Monday. Jessie, Mia and Holly reflect on the woman, described by all sides of politics as the best of us, on the strangers who ran to help her, and on what female politicians are now saying about their safety. Our love goes to Helen and her family.

Also, Russell Brand is on trial in London, and he and his wife Laura are posting about it every day. Holly unpacks why Britain can’t look away.

Plus, forget the postcode. Mia is backing a theory that what decides how happy you are is everything within ten minutes of your front door.

And, Prince Harry sat down with GQ and used the word “reconcile”. Holly nearly broke a thumb clicking.

We’re so excited to be selected for Apple Podcasts Creators We Love, which recognises people who are trailblazers and leaders in podcasting. We’re featured alongside some other amazing Australian podcasters. You can check it out on Apple Podcasts or at apple.co/creatorsweloveau.

Skip the 12-week waitlist. Subscribe to Mamamia today and you’ll automatically go in the draw to win a $5,000 B2C Furniture voucher to spend online or in-store on pieces available right now. Subscribe today. T&Cs apply.

What To Listen To Next: 

• Listen to The Quicky: Did Australian Politics Just Change Forever?
• Listen to our latest episode: "Major Life Update. We're Getting Divorced. Any Questions?"
• Listen: Andy Lee & Bec Harding’s Royal Wedding & “Can I Crash On Your Couch?”
• Listen: Special Episode: Perimenopause, Out Loud
• Listen: The New Ways To Be Rude & “How Much Do You Earn?”
• Listen: Why Is The Internet Being Unspeakably Cruel To One Woman This Week?
• Connect your subscription to Apple Podcasts

Get access to Very Peri, Mamamia's exclusive perimenopause series, for just $59. 25 world-leading experts, over 20 on-demand sessions, available now. We’ve sorted through the noise so you don't have to. Go to veryperi.com.au today. You hot? Same.

Check out the Mamamia Out Loud newsletter.

Discover more Mamamia Podcasts here including the very latest episode of Parenting Out Loud, the parenting podcast for people who don't listen to... parenting podcasts.

SUBSCRIBE here: Support independent women's media 

You can now watch our show in full length video on the Apple Podcast app - make sure your phone is up to date and we can't wait for you to see

Mamamia Out Loud on Apple

What to read: 

• 'This wasn't an accident'. Yesterday a female MP was hit by a car in an alleged 'deliberate act'.
• 'I was so repulsed.' Six women have testified against Russell Brand in his rape trial.
• Russell Brand confessed something very bad in a profile and everyone with kids is furious.

THE END BITS: 

Check out our merch at MamamiaOutLoud.com

GET IN TOUCH:

Feedback? We’re listening. Send us an email at [email protected]

Share your story, feedback, or dilemma! Send us a voice message.

Join our Facebook group Mamamia Outlouders to talk about the show.

Follow us on Instagram @mamamiaoutloud and on Tiktok @mamamiaoutloud

Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land on which we have recorded this podcast.

Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribe

See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

What happens when you announce your divorce with an FAQ and forget your Instagram is public? A man named Michael found out, five million views later, and now Em needs answers. Who initiated it? Who gets custody of the pet social account? And are Millie and Bug even dogs?

Plus, Holly and Jessie discuss the rise of the collab breakup post, and the one detail that tells you a split is anything but amicable.

Also, Tobey Maguire stands at the altar at his ex-wife’s wedding, as the officiant. Is there a statute of limitations on being friends with your ex?

And, the hosts reveal exactly how they’d handle a breakup online. Em has a very specific prediction for Holly’s feed involving the garden.

We’re so excited to be selected for Apple Podcasts Creators We Love, which recognises people who are trailblazers and leaders in podcasting. We’re featured alongside some other amazing Australian podcasters. You can check it out on Apple Podcasts or at apple.co/creatorsweloveau.

Skip the 12-week waitlist. Subscribe to Mamamia today and you’ll automatically go in the draw to win a $5,000 B2C Furniture voucher to spend online or in-store on pieces available right now. Subscribe today. T&Cs apply.

What To Listen To Next: 

• Listen to our latest episode: Andy Lee & Bec Harding’s Royal Wedding & “Can I Crash On Your Couch?”
• Listen: Special Episode: Perimenopause, Out Loud
• Listen: The New Ways To Be Rude & “How Much Do You Earn?”
• Listen: Why Is The Internet Being Unspeakably Cruel To One Woman This Week?
• Listen: There's Wh*res In This Gym & Harry’s Masterclass On Grief
• Listen: A Botched Execution & The In-Law Photo Dilemma
• Listen: Zoë Foster Blake’s 'FIBI' Rule Will Change Your Friendships & How To Buy Clothes That Fit You
• Connect your subscription to Apple Podcasts

Got questions or things you'd like Mia to talk about? Email us at [email protected]

Discover more Mamamia Podcasts here including the very latest episode of Parenting Out Loud, the parenting podcast for people who don't listen to... parenting podcasts.

SUBSCRIBE here: Support independent women's media 

You can now watch our show in full length video on the Apple Podcast app - make sure your phone is up to date and we can't wait for you to see

Mamamia Out Loud on Apple

What to read: 

• 'I've seen hundreds of divorces. The women who cope best all do this one thing.'
• 'The perks of divorce nobody talks about. But everyone should hear.'
• This one tip from Mel Robbins is the key to getting over your ex fast.

THE END BITS: 

Check out our merch at MamamiaOutLoud.com

Keen for more? Check out the Mamamia Out Loud newsletter.

GET IN TOUCH:

Feedback? We’re listening. Send us an email at [email protected]

Share your story, feedback, or dilemma! Send us a voice message.

Join our Facebook group Mamamia Outlouders to talk about the show.

Follow us on Instagram @mamamiaoutloud and on Tiktok @mamamiaoutloud

Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land on which we have recorded this podcast.

Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribe

See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Andy Lee and Bec Harding were together 12 years before they married in New York on the weekend, and Holly Wainwright isn’t mad, she’s just disappointed.

Plus, a man online says it’s rude NOT to ask to stay at a friend’s place when you’re in their city. Holly, Jessie and Amelia draw up the houseguest rules, right down to who strips the bed.

Also, Amelia unpacks what’s really happening on the streets of France, and how Pope Leo handled a phone call from Vladimir Putin three days after surgery.

And, three cookbooks made the list of Australia’s top 100 books. Jessie wants to know if a cookbook even counts, and what to make of the influencers who say they've never read a book.

We’re so excited to be selected for Apple Podcasts Creators We Love, which recognises people who are trailblazers and leaders in podcasting. We’re featured alongside some other amazing Australian podcasters. You can check it out on Apple Podcasts or at apple.co/creatorsweloveau.

Skip the 12-week waitlist. Subscribe to Mamamia today and you’ll automatically go in the draw to win a $5,000 B2C Furniture voucher to spend online or in-store on pieces available right now. Subscribe today. T&Cs apply.

What To Listen To Next: 

• Listen to our latest episode: Special Episode: Perimenopause, Out Loud
• Listen: The New Ways To Be Rude & “How Much Do You Earn?”
• Listen: Why Is The Internet Being Unspeakably Cruel To One Woman This Week?
• Listen: There's Wh*res In This Gym & Harry’s Masterclass On Grief
• Listen: A Botched Execution & The In-Law Photo Dilemma
• Listen: Zoë Foster Blake’s 'FIBI' Rule Will Change Your Friendships & How To Buy Clothes That Fit You
• Connect your subscription to Apple Podcasts

Get access to Very Peri, Mamamia's exclusive perimenopause series, for just $59. 25 world-leading experts, over 20 on-demand sessions, available now. We’ve sorted through the noise so you don't have to. Go to veryperi.com.au today. You hot? Same.

Check out the Mamamia Out Loud newsletter.

Discover more Mamamia Podcasts here including the very latest episode of Parenting Out Loud, the parenting podcast for people who don't listen to... parenting podcasts.

SUBSCRIBE here: Support independent women's media 

You can now watch our show in full length video on the Apple Podcast app - make sure your phone is up to date and we can't wait for you to see

Mamamia Out Loud on Apple

What to read: 

• We have our first look at Andy Lee and Rebecca Harding's wedding photos.
• Some see Andy Lee as 'the guy who laughs at the funny guy'. This is his response.
• 'A modern etiquette guide is going viral. But Australians? All you need are these 19 rules.'

THE END BITS: 

Check out our merch at MamamiaOutLoud.com

GET IN TOUCH:

Feedback? We’re listening. Send us an email at [email protected]

Share your story, feedback, or dilemma! Send us a voice message.

Join our Facebook group Mamamia Outlouders to talk about the show.

Follow us on Instagram @mamamiaoutloud and on Tiktok @mamamiaoutloud

Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land on which we have recorded this podcast.

Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribe

See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

What actually is perimenopause, and how would you know if you’re in it?

Outlouders, we’re popping into your feed on a Sunday for a very important conversation: a special Out Loud episode, where we're talking perimenopause and menopause.

Amelia Lester, Mia Freedman, Holly Wainwright, Jessie Stephens and Leigh Campbell are five women at three life stages, from 35 and seven months postpartum to 55 and on the other side of menopause. One of us forgot what year it was this morning. Another questioned whether 'rage' could be added to a list of possible symptoms or whether people actually were being a lot more irritating!

You’ll hear why perimenopause can look like a pile of unrelated symptoms, right up until it doesn’t, and why so many women blame themselves for not recognising symptoms they didn’t know were connected. Plus, what the “Wonder Woman era” really means, the sleep that vanished overnight, the skincare that stopped loving them back and the brain fog that sent Leigh downstairs chanting “yoghurt”.

And, the upside nobody mentions, what the women who’ve been through it wish they’d known sooner and the one step everyone at the table says made the difference.

For evidence-based health information about perimenopause and menopause, head to health.gov.au/perimenopause

This episode has been created in partnership with the Australian Government. 

We want to hear from you! Take our quick 3-minute survey for your chance to win a $1,000 gift card.

You can now watch our show in full length video on the Apple Podcast app or on Youtube.

THE END BITS: 

Check out our merch at MamamiaOutLoud.com

GET IN TOUCH:

Feedback? We’re listening. Send us an email at [email protected]

Share your story, feedback, or dilemma! Send us a voice message.

Join our Facebook group Mamamia Outlouders to talk about the show.

Follow us on Instagram @mamamiaoutloud and on Tiktok @mamamiaoutloud

Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land on which we have recorded this podcast.

CREDITS:

Hosts: Mia Freedman, Leigh Campbell, Holly Wainwright, Jessie Stephens & Amelia Lester

Acting Group Executive Producer: Georgie Page

Executive Producer: Keeshia Pettit

Video Producer: Matt Perry

Associate Producer: Tessa Kotowicz

Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land on which we have recorded this podcast. 

Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribe

See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Would you ask a date what they earn? A BBC piece found plenty of people who’d rather not, but Em Vernem has a strict rule she adheres to — Holly's Britishness hates it.

Also, quiet quitting is over. Loud working, with emails scheduled for 2am, is the new survival strategy.

And the new Rules of Rudeness. If you bring a bottle of wine to a friend’s house, are you allowed to drink it? Jessie Stephens and Holly Wainwright can't agree, and it’s just one of the social rules nobody explained to us. Holly has gone off small talk. Nobody else has.

Plus, Jessie Stephens needs Halloween costume ideas for her twins. Please give us your cutest suggestions in the Outlouders Facebook group!

We’re so excited to be selected for Apple Podcasts Creators We Love, which recognises people who are trailblazers and leaders in podcasting. We’re featured alongside some other amazing Australian podcasters. You can check it out on Apple Podcasts or at apple.co/creatorsweloveau.

Skip the 12-week waitlist. Subscribe to Mamamia today and you’ll automatically go in the draw to win a $5,000 B2C Furniture voucher to spend online or in-store on pieces available right now. Subscribe today. T&Cs apply.

Recommendations

Em recommends Habitat for Humanity

Jessie recommends 3 questions before sleep

Holly recommends Pay attention — writer Emily Maguire finds promiscuous curiosity and cultural receptivity in the creative process

Keen for more? Check out the Mamamia Out Loud newsletter.

Get access to Very Peri, Mamamia's exclusive perimenopause series, for just $59. 25 world-leading experts, over 20 on-demand sessions, available now. We’ve sorted through the noise so you don't have to. Go to veryperi.com.au today. You hot? Same.

What To Listen To Next: 

• Listen to our latest episode: Why Is The Internet Being Unspeakably Cruel To One Woman This Week?
• Listen: There's Wh*res In This Gym & Harry’s Masterclass On Grief
• Listen: A Botched Execution & The In-Law Photo Dilemma
• Listen: Zoë Foster Blake’s 'FIBI' Rule Will Change Your Friendships & How To Buy Clothes That Fit You
• Listen: The 'Cornell 7', Fraternity Culture & 'Me Too' For A New Generation
• Listen: Everything We Know About Sam Wood
• Connect your subscription to Apple Podcasts

Discover more Mamamia Podcasts here including the very latest episode of Parenting Out Loud, the parenting podcast for people who don't listen to... parenting podcasts.

SUBSCRIBE here: Support independent women's media 

You can now watch our show in full length video on the Apple Podcast app - make sure your phone is up to date and we can't wait for you to see

Mamamia Out Loud on Apple

What to read: 

• social cues I'm still trying (failing) to get my head around at 32
• 'I spent a week doing everything I could to get fired. Then my boss called me into his office.'
• Modern-day social etiquette you should live and die by.
• "Don’t delay it." The 5 money conversations every couple needs to have.

THE END BITS: 

Check out our merch at MamamiaOutLoud.com

GET IN TOUCH:

Feedback? We’re listening. Send us an email at [email protected]

Share your story, feedback, or dilemma! Send us a voice message.

Join our Facebook group Mamamia Outlouders to talk about the show.

Follow us on Instagram @mamamiaoutloud and on Tiktok @mamamiaoutloud

CREDITS:

Hosts: Holly Wainwright, Jessie Stephens & Emily Vernem

Acting Group Executive Producer: Georgie Page

Executive Producer: Keeshia Pettit

Video Producer: Matt Perry

Associate Producer: Tessa Kotowicz

Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land on which we have recorded this podcast.

Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribe

See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Our favourite freelance royal Prince Harry is teaching a masterclass in grief, and he’s being paid for it. If everyone from the brother to the butler has made money off Diana, why not her son? Jessie has a theory, and Mia has a number.

Plus a comedian has walked onto one of the biggest stages in American TV and announced that women at the gym now dress like wh*res. Shane Gillis hosted Saturday Night Live, and Jessie has watched the whole monologue - and thinks it’s worse in context. Then the female comics of the world answered him, and Holly says he’s fair game.

Mia is watching a reality show she doesn’t even like. It has something in common with the Matildas, the Eras Tour and a funeral.

And, Girls is coming back. Same girls, now 40.

If you want to check out these amazing female comedians that we celebrated in today's show - here is where to find them - Kyla Cobbler, Rachel Parris, Katherine Ryan and Cassie Willson.

We’re so excited to be selected for Apple Podcasts Creators We Love, which recognises people who are trailblazers and leaders in podcasting. We’re featured alongside some other amazing Australian podcasters. You can check it out on Apple Podcasts or at apple.co/creatorsweloveau.

MOVE is feel-good fitness by Mamamia. For less than a coffee a week, get unlimited access to hundreds of workouts, ranging from five to 45 minutes. Plus, you get unlimited access to everything across Mamamia, including subscriber-exclusive podcast episodes, articles, discounts and giveaways. Get your MOVE goodness here 

What To Listen To Next: 

• Listen to our latest episode: A Botched Execution & The In-Law Photo Dilemma
• Listen: Zoë Foster Blake’s 'FIBI' Rule Will Change Your Friendships & How To Buy Clothes That Fit You
• Listen: The 'Cornell 7', Fraternity Culture & 'Me Too' For A New Generation
• Listen: Everything We Know About Sam Wood
• Listen: A Pap Walk & A Pub Lunch: An Unhinged Royal Wrap
• Listen: Three Rules For Life & The Worst Person In A Conversation
• Listen: "A Little Bit Gay" & "I Would Never Have Forgotten My Drugs": The Internet's Hunter Biden Obsession
• Connect your subscription to Apple Podcasts

Get access to Very Peri, Mamamia's exclusive perimenopause series, for just $59. 25 world-leading experts, over 20 on-demand sessions, available now. We’ve sorted through the noise so you don't have to. Go to veryperi.com.au today. You hot? Same.

Check out the Mamamia Out Loud newsletter.

Discover more Mamamia Podcasts here including the very latest episode of Parenting Out Loud, the parenting podcast for people who don't listen to... parenting podcasts.

SUBSCRIBE here: Support independent women's media 

You can now watch our show in full length video on the Apple Podcast app - make sure your phone is up to date and we can't wait for you to see

Mamamia Out Loud on Apple

What to read: 

• A comedian just called women in the gym 'whores' on SNL. We need to talk about it.
• Is Meghan and Harry's return to the UK actually a big deal? An explainer.
• 'I thought I knew what grief would look like. Eight weeks after Mum died, I realised I was wrong.'
• 'The best part about this reality show is that the contestants are simply terrible at it.'

THE END BITS: 

Check out our merch at MamamiaOutLoud.com

GET IN TOUCH:

Feedback? We’re listening. Send us an email at [email protected]

Share your story, feedback, or dilemma! Send us a voice message.

Join our Facebook group Mamamia Outlouders to talk about the show.

Follow us on Instagram @mamamiaoutloud and on Tiktok @mamamiaoutloud

Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land on which we have recorded this podcast.

Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribe

See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Mary Fowler pulled out of two Matildas games and flew home, reportedly to be with her injured partner Nathan Cleary. Good on her, or did she let the team down? Em, freshly back from Cambodia, brings Holly and Jessie the sport story everyone has an opinion on. And would the conversation be different if it were Cleary?

Plus, Kelly Clarkson walked into a Brooklyn curiosity shop, asked about a singing mechanical bird and walked out feeling like Julia Roberts in Pretty Woman. Holly and Em perform a dramatic reading of the feud that followed on X. Who’s in the right? And is a mechanical bird really worth all this?

We’re so excited to be selected for Apple Podcasts Creators We Love, which recognises people who are trailblazers and leaders in podcasting. We’re featured alongside some other amazing Australian podcasters. You can check it out on Apple Podcasts or at apple.co/creatorsweloveau.

MOVE is feel-good fitness by Mamamia. For less than a coffee a week, get unlimited access to hundreds of workouts, ranging from five to 45 minutes. Plus, you get unlimited access to everything across Mamamia, including subscriber-exclusive podcast episodes, articles, discounts and giveaways. Get your MOVE goodness here 

What To Listen To Next: 

• Listen to our latest episode: A Botched Execution & The In-Law Photo Dilemma
• Listen: Zoë Foster Blake’s 'FIBI' Rule Will Change Your Friendships & How To Buy Clothes That Fit You
• Listen: The 'Cornell 7', Fraternity Culture & 'Me Too' For A New Generation
• Listen: Everything We Know About Sam Wood
• Listen: A Pap Walk & A Pub Lunch: An Unhinged Royal Wrap
• Listen: Three Rules For Life & The Worst Person In A Conversation
• Listen: "A Little Bit Gay" & "I Would Never Have Forgotten My Drugs": The Internet's Hunter Biden Obsession
• Connect your subscription to Apple Podcasts

Got questions or things you'd like Mia to talk about? Email us at [email protected]

Discover more Mamamia Podcasts here including the very latest episode of Parenting Out Loud, the parenting podcast for people who don't listen to... parenting podcasts.

SUBSCRIBE here: Support independent women's media 

You can now watch our show in full length video on the Apple Podcast app - make sure your phone is up to date and we can't wait for you to see

Mamamia Out Loud on Apple

What to read: 

• Two words were all Mary Fowler owed us.
• From Cairns to the World Cup: How Mary Fowler became the youngest Matildas player.
• Who is Matildas player Mary Fowler's boyfriend? Everything you need to know about the NRL star.
• Kelly Clarkson accused a Brooklyn store of lying. Now it wants to 'clear the air'.

THE END BITS: 

Check out our merch at MamamiaOutLoud.com

Keen for more? Check out the Mamamia Out Loud newsletter.

GET IN TOUCH:

Feedback? We’re listening. Send us an email at [email protected]

Share your story, feedback, or dilemma! Send us a voice message.

Join our Facebook group Mamamia Outlouders to talk about the show.

Follow us on Instagram @mamamiaoutloud and on Tiktok @mamamiaoutloud

Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land on which we have recorded this podcast.

Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribe

See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

A 50-year-old woman woke up in a hospital bed last week, angry and confused, because her execution didn’t work. Jessie unpacks the Christa Pike case, and Holly has questions about the Pentagon’s plan livestream the next one.

Stand on the edge of the photo, please, so we can crop you out later. One woman has been getting that treatment from her in-laws for 30 years, and Mia, who is Jessie Stephens’ mother-in-law, wants to talk about it. Jessie is surprisingly understanding.

Also, the boss of Signal refused to play along with a BBC quickfire round, and Holly is worried our feeds have trained us to want real-life conversations on 2x speed. 

And, Shanghai has put timers on its public toilets. Mia reckons she’d win.

MOVE is feel-good fitness by Mamamia. For less than a coffee a week, get unlimited access to hundreds of workouts, ranging from five to 45 minutes. Plus, you get unlimited access to everything across Mamamia, including subscriber-exclusive podcast episodes, articles, discounts and giveaways. Get your MOVE goodness here 

What To Listen To Next: 

• Listen to our latest episode: Zoë Foster Blake’s 'FIBI' Rule Will Change Your Friendships & How To Buy Clothes That Fit You
• Listen: The 'Cornell 7', Fraternity Culture & 'Me Too' For A New Generation
• Listen: Everything We Know About Sam Wood
• Listen: A Pap Walk & A Pub Lunch: An Unhinged Royal Wrap
• Listen: Three Rules For Life & The Worst Person In A Conversation
• Listen: "A Little Bit Gay" & "I Would Never Have Forgotten My Drugs": The Internet's Hunter Biden Obsession
• Listen: The 'Cornell 7' Snapchat Messages & Can We Talk About This Exercise Trend?

Get access to Very Peri, Mamamia's exclusive perimenopause series, for just $59. 25 world-leading experts, over 20 on-demand sessions, available now. We’ve sorted through the noise so you don't have to. Go to veryperi.com.au today. You hot? Same.

Check out the Mamamia Out Loud newsletter.

Discover more Mamamia Podcasts here including the very latest episode of Parenting Out Loud, the parenting podcast for people who don't listen to... parenting podcasts.

SUBSCRIBE here: Support independent women's media 

You can now watch our show in full length video on the Apple Podcast app - make sure your phone is up to date and we can't wait for you to see

Mamamia Out Loud on Apple

What to read: 

• Christa Pike survived her execution. More details about her condition are emerging.
• 'The cruel "rule" my mother-in-law has when it comes to family photos.'
• My Instagram reels addiction has ruined my ability to have a conversation. But can I get it back?

THE END BITS: 

Check out our merch at MamamiaOutLoud.com

GET IN TOUCH:

Feedback? We’re listening. Send us an email at [email protected]

Share your story, feedback, or dilemma! Send us a voice message.

Join our Facebook group Mamamia Outlouders to talk about the show.

Follow us on Instagram @mamamiaoutloud and on Tiktok @mamamiaoutloud

Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land on which we have recorded this podcast.

Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribe

See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.