For the video of this episode, go to https://youtu.be/s5dehbrTc84.

Why are couples surprised when they first experience conflict with each other. And how can they manage it without freaking out? Our guest in this episode, Dr. Jessica Higgins, works with couples to help them get past problem patterns and turn toward each other.

Dr. Higgins’s website is https://drjessicahiggins.com/.

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