Mike Carter, Part 2 of 2. Building a new life in New Zealand. Wife a house surgeon. Mixed race school. Few Maori students at Massey in the 1970s. Been on two protest marches, one in Johannesburg, the other in 1981 (Springbok tour). Views of the law in New Zealand. Different situation in early South African settlement. Growing sense of Maori identity. Separation of/distinctions between groups in society. The end of apartheid in South Africa. Children’s experiences of South Africa. Trips back. On the school PTA in the 1980s. Highbury School for the diversity of pupils. What daughters are doing now.