I was so happy when Manuel Pais agreed to be my guest on this episode of DevOps shorts. 

Manuel is a Lisbon-born, Madrid-based DevOps consultant and trainer  - but most importantly - a charismatic and inteligent human being.

Listen to the episode to learn :

- How one workshop with great trainers can change your vision

- Was Gene Kim hiding in Manuel's office?

- How IT orgs need to change in order to survive in the fully remote world we're heading to

## Short Notes:

- Continuous Delivery

- The Phoenix Project

- Team Topologies Training