What if the key to how universities drive innovation isn't just through spin-out companies? What if it's really about spinning in - or spinning with? Professor Matt Freeman is back hosting Innovation Together: The Podcast, this time for a conversation with Professor Marc Griffiths exploring why the UK’s innovation challenge isn’t about generating ideas, but translating them into real-world impact. From “spinning with” instead of spinning out, to the rise of the 4th generation university, this episode rethinks how universities and businesses create innovation together. 

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