Avery Trufelman had 33 to look forward to because it was her Jesus year.

But 34? What happens at 34? There is no Taylor Swift album for that, sadly, if you’re into that kind of music, I guess?

In our conversation, we touched on fashion, the New Testament, and the existential dread that comes with creation.

Have a listen and subscribe to Avery’s podcast on the culture of fashion and clothing called Articles of Interest. You’re gonna like the stories you hear, I guarantee it.