My conversation with Marcus Fairs, founder and editor-in-chief of Dezeen, was so much more than I expected. I knew we'd discuss the early days of Dezeen and hoped for interesting information about the ins and outs of running a successful online business. But we also delved into Marcus's personal story, his thoughts on turning failure into success and breaking news stories with Kanye West.

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Music by James Green