Marie Miller is in Austin for SXSW, and she joins Jennifer Fulwiler for a fun conversation about keeping your faith in a secular environment and the craziness that often comes with family life (Marie is one of 10 children).

Jen asked listeners on Facebook to describe their worst Mass experience with children in 10 words or fewer, and Jen and Marie use those responses as lyrics for a song about disastrous church experiences! They sing the song on the air at the end of the segment, complete with a baby rattle as a tambourine.