Marina Jenkins is Litigation Director for the National Democratic Redistricting Committee, where she leads national and state-based litigation efforts to combat gerrymandered districts -- in other words, saving democracy! Oh! And, Marina also happens to be Brad's wife! Brad and Marina take a break unpacking boxes, share a beer, and disagree on most everything: what's worth being fired-up about, do people actually use twitter, the 2020 race, and whether it's appropriate to mention their dog's flatulence on a podcast!