<p>Broadcast date: Thursday 21 June 2012</p>

Marine biologist Mark Norman talks cephalopods and penguins

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Hear all the thought-provoking interviews with authors, writers, artists, politicians, psychologists, musicians, celebrities, survivors and more from the daily ABC radio show and podcast 'Conversations' with Richard Fidler and Sarah Kanowski from the years 2012-2014.To binge even more great episodes of the ‘Conversationspodcast’ with Richard Fidler and Sarah Kanowskigo the ABC listen app (Australia) or wherever you get your podcasts. There you’ll find hundreds of the best thought-provoking interviews with authors, writers, artists, politicians, psychologists, musicians, and celebrities.

Hear all the thought-provoking interviews with authors, writers, artists, politicians, psychologists, musicians, celebrities, survivors and more from the daily ABC radio show and podcast 'Conversations' with Richard Fidler and Sarah Kanowski from the years 2012-2014.To&nbsp;binge&nbsp;even more&nbsp;great episodes&nbsp;of&nbsp;the&nbsp;‘Conversationspodcast’&nbsp;with&nbsp;Richard Fidler&nbsp;and&nbsp;Sarah Kanowskigo the&nbsp;ABC listen app&nbsp;(Australia) or wherever you get your&nbsp;podcasts. There you’ll find hundreds of&nbsp;the best&nbsp;thought-provoking interviews&nbsp;with&nbsp;authors,&nbsp;writers,&nbsp;artists,&nbsp;politicians,&nbsp;psychologists,&nbsp;musicians, and&nbsp;celebrities.

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Marine biologist Mark Norman talks cephalopods and penguins

Marine biologist Mark Norman talks cephalopods and penguins