Mark and Martin worked together a decade ago and share a great love for the film Withnail and I and living life to the full.
They discuss how mental health is affected by what's going on, by isolation and by very difficult times for business.
Should we be doing new business? Should we just watch Netflix? No, there is work to be done and a new future to be ready for.
They also talk about borrowing a sattelite from the Ministry of Defence