Welcome to the Conservative Caucus podcast! On this episode of the Conservative Caucus podcast, host Jim Pfaff talks with Mark Chenoweth, President of the New Civil Liberties Alliance (NCLA), about the growing power of the administrative state and its threat to Americans' constitutional freedoms. Mark breaks down the NCLA's mission and recent legal victories—such as overturning Chevron deference at the Supreme Court—while providing practical examples of government overreach, due process concerns, and explaining why the fight for civil liberties matters now more than ever. For anyone concerned about bureaucratic overreach and the future of American liberty, this is a must-listen conversation.

(00:02) Challenging the Modern Administrative State (08:01) Legal System and Government Overreach (13:07) Federal Permits vs. Nuisance Lawsuits (18:20) Supreme Court Bump Stock Ruling (25:43) Tribunal Bias and Rights Denial (30:11) Conflict in NLRB Judicial Roles (34:03) State Emergency Powers and Limits (42:47) Mass Data Collection Concerns (48:25) Qualified Immunity and Police Debate (54:05) Misuse of Public Rights Doctrine (57:50) Fraud and Waste in Aid Programs (01:01:15) Presidential Duty and Law Execution (01:09:04) Judicial Pushback on Trump Appointments (01:15:06) Optimism in Fighting Administrative Power (01:16:27) Restoring Presidential Control

About Guest: Mark Chenoweth's journey is deeply tied to the story of the New Civil Liberties Alliance (NCLA), where he serves as President and General Counsel. The organization, founded approximately eight years ago by Columbia Law School Professor Philip Hamburger, was inspired by Hamburger's scholarship on religious liberty, particularly his monumental 2014 book, Is Administrative Law Unlawful? In that work, Hamburger drew striking parallels between the abuses of power the colonists suffered under King George III and those perpetuated by today's administrative state—warning that Americans had, in many ways, returned to the same threats to civil liberties the Constitution was meant to prevent. Chenoweth, working closely with Hamburger, has dedicated his legal career to challenging the excessive powers of the modern bureaucracy and defending constitutional freedoms. Through his advocacy at NCLA, Mark is at the forefront of efforts to restore civil liberties and uphold the founding principles that protect Americans from government overreach.

About the Host: Jim Pfaff is the president of The Conservative Caucus (TCC) and an influential voice in conservative circles. He is a nationally recognized public policy leader in strategic management and development for government officials, campaigns, and non-profit organizations. His government relations work has included federal and state legislative issues. Jim helps government and non-profit organizations, political efforts, and businesses use communications tools to advance grassroots organizing, message development, coalition building, and fundraising goals.

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