RC2C Host Neil Scott welcomes the NAATP Director of Public Policy, Mark Dunn, for a chat about his personal recovery, as well as the challenges facing America.

And alcoholism historian William White gets 'The Last Word'!

PLUS - as mentioned in the podcast, here is a link to Nima Sarikhani's photo, in the running for the wildlife photo of the year. Nima is a good friend of recovery and the podcast. You can read the story behind the photos, as well as vote for the photograph of the year at:

https://www.nhm.ac.uk/wpy/peoples-choice/2025-the-final-portrait