Thurl Bailey is joined by Mark Eaton (Utah Jazz center 1982-1993, NBA All-Star, 2x Defensive Player of the Year) to talk about his story of working as a mechanic before getting picked up by the Utah Jazz on a one-year contract and the power of persistence.

Then we talk about Mark's latest book, The Four Commitments of a Winning Team, the importance of knowing your role, focusing on your strengths, doing what you're asked to do, and the bond you build when protecting others.

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